Re:The Point of the Banach-Tarski Theorem
by moloch-hai on Sunday January 22, 2023 @06:47PM
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You have an abstract definition of a sequence of digits, and an algorithm that reveals an actual digit from among them. It is surprising that you don't need to approximate an infinite series to get it, but everybody agrees that digit would show up there if you did one. You would still need to do an infinite amount of work to get the rest of them.
It is magic of a kind by wizards of a kind, or anyway indistinguishable from it.
Re:The Point of the Banach-Tarski Theorem
by defrost on Sunday January 22, 2023 @06:57PM
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Just to be clear, for any third party spectators, the surprise isn't that more work is required to get more digits .. the WTF moment for some is that no matter how large N is there's no need to do an increasing amount of work as N grows (there's no cost to "skipping to (not quite) the end").
It's another of those intuition challenging moments in math.
Re:The Point of the Banach-Tarski Theorem
by moloch-hai on Sunday January 22, 2023 @07:31PM
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It's the wackiest result I know of, and seems overwhelmingly more profound than BT.
. . . and then I start thinking about that damn Bailey–Borwein–Plouffe formula.
Although ( handwave ) all the transcendentalness is magically manipulated away leaving a simple computation for the immediate reveal of any arbitrary n-th (hexadecimal) digit of π
But surely that's over simplification?
Is this magic by wizards?