Re:AI Is Not a Horse
by ben_w on Sunday January 22, 2023 @05:57PM
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Society may be happy doing that to a dog, I am not. Nor am I happy doing that to animals which are turned into dog meat. Contradictions abound with more than a superficial glance on many moral topics, in part due to our lack of any of omniscience, omnipotence, nor omnibenevolence.
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Re:AI Is Not a Horse
by onethought on Monday January 23, 2023 @03:40PM
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But we aren’t talking about you. We are talking about us, society. And it’s unequivocal.
Society is made up of individuals.
200 years ago, some societies were fine with slavery. Enough individuals rejected it and society changed.
What you say only works insofar as "ethics" means only the rules of your society and not any person or group; this would also reject the "E" from PETA, the USA declaration of independence, and the Suffragettes.
Re:AI Is Not a Horse
by onethought on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @03:52PM
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Okay. So we kill and keep dolphins captive. We eat octopus. We run experiments on monkeys.
This happens globally. For 1000s of years. There is no global or even local movement to stop treating conscious animals any better… which is exactly my point, AI in its current state is less than that. So until we as a society want to tackle consciousness animals I don’t think we will tackle consciousness in AI