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Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by arizonaforce on Saturday January 21, 2023 @05:17PM (#34471230)
“The move will thwart cryptocurrency access to tens of millions of people worldwide.”
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by raydiatian on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:23PM (#34471920)
The guys who promote fake news deserve their own special circle in hell where they are gaslit for eternity.
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by argella on Saturday January 21, 2023 @05:22PM (#34471269)
Crush the competition.
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by dd36 on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:00PM (#34471665)
Crush the criminals.
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by martin8412 on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:22PM (#34471908)
Crypto is not a competitor to banks.
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by notch656c on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:44PM (#34472191)
Crypto as a competitor to SWIFT is kind of interesting though. SWIFT is basically a fast international transfer. Crypto is actually pretty great for that because you can do a fast transfer against domestic crypt/fiat pairs and after the int'l crypto transfer dump back into fiat so the currency risk is relatively low. Using SWIFT / int'l fiat transfer to buy crypto makes no sense.

In short cutting off SWIFT from crypto exchanges is a nothing burger because domestic crypto/fiat pairs are available and int'l transfer of crypto bypasses SWIFT.

Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by dd36 on Sunday January 22, 2023 @09:08AM (#34477523)
Or you can do that all in a database without the wasted energy.
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by ben_w on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:22PM (#34471910)
I know it varies by crypto, but last I checked BTC couldn't handle 2% of the transactions Swift handles.

It's "competition" only in the same way that New Shepard is competition for the Falcon 9 and Crew Dragon.

Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by argella on Saturday January 21, 2023 @07:40PM (#34472700)
* crypto includes more than btc * btc has the lightning network for higher volume of transactions
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by ben_w on Sunday January 22, 2023 @03:35AM (#34475498)
The first I explicitly acknowledged by saying it varies by crypto. Both are irrelevant.

SWIFT is (a) not the only inter-bank system, and (b) is specifically for inter-bank exchanges (the "I" is for Interbank), so when a transaction is between two accounts in the same bank it doesn't need to touch SWIFT.

Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by CamperBob2 on Saturday January 21, 2023 @05:56PM (#34471612)
What became of the push to disconnect Russia from Swift? Are they still online? If so, why?
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by SXX on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:20PM (#34471877)
They dont want to disconnect Russia completely. I can't find data for all 2022, but between February and August EU countries paid to Russia around $100 billions for energy resources only: gas, oil, etc. Here is the data till November so it's far more than just $100B:

https://www.bruegel.org/dataset/russian-foreign-trade-tracke...

It's still more money than US and EU countries spent combined on help to Ukraine:

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-s...

Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by thehumanmeat on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:00PM (#34471669)
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by paganel on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:00PM (#34471663)
Because there are still commercial exchanges between the West and Russia.
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by albntomat0 on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:01PM (#34471678)
Is there another source for this?

The website posted also has an article about UFOs in Ukraine: https://www.asiamarkets.com/russia-shoots-ufo/

Edit: Searching around, I cannot find another source, so take this news with a grain of salt.

Second edit: There are a bunch of screen shots on Twitter saying that Binance's specific payments processor has stopped SWIFT payments for less than 100k USD, but other normal currencies are fine. Seems to me to be far more nuanced than the OP link suggests, especially as the article cuts the Binance email short.

Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by ben_w on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:13PM (#34471803)
In fairness, and to my surprise, they are using "UFO" in a totally correct manner for that headline:

> However, military experts say it’s likely the unidentified object was either an advanced military drone or a hypersonic missile.

Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by albntomat0 on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:24PM (#34471931)
Fair, thanks for pointing that out.

Having looked around for other info on Binance being cut from SWIFT, both articles on that website seem to me to be "technically true, but written to be misleading".

Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by wmf on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:03PM (#34471701)
Binance reportedly sent emails to their customers saying they've been cut off from SWIFT.
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by hestefisk on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:22PM (#34471904)
Source?
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by cjensen on Saturday January 21, 2023 @07:37PM (#34472678)
Yes, but since Binance routinely lies about things, that doesn't mean much.
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by gggggg5 on Saturday January 21, 2023 @09:56PM (#34473750)
What does Binance routinely lie about?
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by cjensen on Sunday January 22, 2023 @12:31AM (#34474639)
Its assets. They claim to own so much commercial paper that they would be one of the top owners of the class, yet no one who sells paper for a living has heard of them.

The kinds of audits it has had.

The amount of regular money it has in the banks.

And even lying so badly that basic fourth-grade math says that month-to-month reports from binance cannot be truth.[1]

[1] https://www.kalzumeus.com/2022/11/11/tether-required-recapit...

Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by kevinak on Sunday January 22, 2023 @02:45AM (#34475284)
Binance doesn’t have anything to do with Tether, you’re probably mixing them up with Bitfinex, another crypto exchange.
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by gggggg5 on Sunday January 22, 2023 @07:11AM (#34476589)
>https://www.kalzumeus.com/2022/11/11/tether-required-recapit...

At no point does this blog post mention Binance, it discusses an entirely different cryptocurrency exchange.

Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by nibbleshifter on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:05PM (#34471726)
Bucket of salt.
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by colesantiago on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:02PM (#34471687)
Good.

The sooner crypto and these exchanges are cut off entirely the better.

Nowadays, I don't see crypto used for payments at all anyway so it makes total sense.

Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by Cypher on Saturday January 21, 2023 @08:37PM (#34473142)
If nobody used it, why would they need to cut it off? that doesn't make total sense.
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by colesantiago on Sunday January 22, 2023 @04:35AM (#34475769)
> If nobody used it, why would they need to cut it off?

Low usage? Crypto's failure to be used as payments? Don't companies like Google and the like do this all the time when a technology fails to live up to expectations?

I see SWIFT cutting crypto off as a great thing.

Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by dd36 on Sunday January 22, 2023 @09:11AM (#34477547)
Exactly. It costs money to support things.
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by raydiatian on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:20PM (#34471878)
News source has no reputation.

Article title is misleading.

Did you just wake up today and decide… “let’s help monger some fear?”

Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by seaourfreed on Saturday January 21, 2023 @07:53PM (#34472798)
They are leaving it enabled for the wealthy ($100k+). They are blocking commoners. They want to block payments to protect fiat currencies.
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by dd36 on Sunday January 22, 2023 @09:09AM (#34477532)
Crypto is not a threat to fiat currencies.
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by Cypher on Saturday January 21, 2023 @08:36PM (#34473127)
why would they do this?
Re:Swift payments network to cut access to crypto exchanges by Moksha108 on Sunday January 22, 2023 @04:21AM (#34475701)
Interesting that it only effects transactions under 100K. I guess they do not want to upset you if you can move amounts larger than that around.