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Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by adam_arthur on Thursday January 19, 2023 @09:58PM (#34448663)
Countries by median income: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income

One advantage the US has is being the world's reserve currency. It tends to give the USD a lot of strength/more purchasing power in other countries.

Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by jacurtis on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:04PM (#34448691)
The median income in tech (most people reading this site) is at least 4x that median, which is even more impactful.
Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by kfajdsl on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:16PM (#34448766)
The median income in tech is $200,000?
Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by jacurtis on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:47PM (#34448984)
I was thinking $40k x 4 which is $160k.

I just did a quick search and found several reputable sites saying the average FAANG salary is $230 (which is 5.75x).

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), the mean software engineering salary was $136,230 in 2022. So you're right thats only 3.5x.

Notice thats the mean. I suspect the median is actually slightly higher than the mean. So i'm guesstimating here. But I stand by my rough estimate.

Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by lotsofpulp on Thursday January 19, 2023 @11:19PM (#34449214)
Why would you suspect the median is higher than the mean?

Almost all statistics related to wealth and income I have seen indicate power law distributions, which would mean median is lower than mean.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenz_curve

Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by nl on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:50PM (#34449009)
This is so far from true it's hard to work out if it is supposed to be trolling or just ignorant.

The median salary of FAANG programmers in the Bay Area might be 4x that median. But I assure you that "most people reading this site" are not "FAANG programmers in the Bay Area" even if at times it might seem like they are.

Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by refurb on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:00PM (#34448674)
How does being the reserve currency drive local wages higher?
Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by tekla on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:04PM (#34448688)
It attracts outside investment since being the reserve currency is at the very least the bedrock of stability
Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by fsckboy on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:17PM (#34448769)
well, switch it around, and I'm not just playing with words, there's cause and effect:

The bedrock of stability (plus large size, i.e. Switzerland or Norway are not going to be it) is the reserve currency.

Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by adam_arthur on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:03PM (#34448684)
If the value of USD is higher relative to an alternative currency, then you can earn USD in the US and visit a foreign country, convert USD to local currency, and achieve higher purchasing power relative to local wages there.

Or simply buy foreign produced goods cheaper (e.g. Chinese produced goods on Amazon). e.g. Exchange rate induced deflation

Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by jacurtis on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:02PM (#34448681)
It doesn't drive wages higher, but it improves buying power which is an indirect raise
Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by refurb on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:05PM (#34448697)
Then why are countries who aren't the reserve currency also have a more valuable currency? In some cases more valuable than the USD?
Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by adam_arthur on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:09PM (#34448717)
Whether the currency is <1 or >1 relative to the USD is not that important... it's largely a function of the money supply. 1 Euro is worth more than 1 USD, but goods in Europe may still cost more in USD terms than equivalent goods in the US. Or salaries could be lower (which is true as of today)
Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by refurb on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:27PM (#34448839)
But that doesn't follow.

1. US has reserve currency status

2. That makes the purchasing power of the USD stronger (because USD > other currency)

3. Citizens benefit from that

Ok, but other currencies have even stronger purchasing power than the USD.

Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by adam_arthur on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:36PM (#34448903)
To put it simply: In an alternate world where USD was not the reserve currency, PPP of US based wages would be lower, all else equal.

The actual nominal conversion rate of the currency is pretty meaningless. The fact that Yen is 100 to 1ish to the dollar is also not very meaningful. They're all just nominal values. Only the exchange rate relative to fundamentals matters. USD gets stronger exchange rates relative to the fundamentals of the currency (because many foreign countries and citizens also hold USD, not just locals). Which is mostly untrue for other currencies.

PPP adjusted salaries are lower everywhere else in the world, partially, but not wholly for this reason.

Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by refurb on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:50PM (#34449008)
You haven't actually proven that US' higher PPP is solely due to its reserve currency status.

Other countries who are not reserve currencies have higher purchasing power than USD. So if the US wasn't the reserve currency, there is no reason it couldn't do the same.

You're making a claim that you haven't backed up.

Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by adam_arthur on Thursday January 19, 2023 @11:10PM (#34449146)
I never said "solely".

Fact: The USD has large foreign demand which does not exist for other currencies.

Fact: If more currency is demanded, it strengthens the currency in a relative sense.

Fact: Therefore the USD is stronger than it would be otherwise, considering only local demand.

Your whole counterargument seems to be based on a misunderstanding of real vs nominal. To say 1 Euro > 1 USD means people in Euro earning countries have higher purchasing power is simply wrong. All currency values are nominal.

Fact: If USD money supply doubled overnight and all holders got 2x the amount and wages/prices adjusted automatically, the Euro would appreciate 2x against the dollar.

Fact: That does not mean Euro earning citizens have higher purchasing power. It's an entirely nominal change. 1 hour of labor in USD terms earns the same in purchasing power, regardless of the face value of currency. Same concept as a stock split

Fact: If Euro became the reserve currency tomorrow, Euro-holders would have more purchasing power due to foreign demand making each unit of currency more valuable in a relative sense than it was previously.

Fact: If USD lost reserve currency status, it would weaken relative to other currencies.

None of these are disputed, but you can believe whatever you want.

Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by refurb on Friday January 20, 2023 @01:23AM (#34449814)
But you still haven’t answered the question - if other countries have as strong (or stronger) currency than the US, then clearly the US could also have a strong currency without being the global reserve?
Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by lmm on Thursday January 19, 2023 @11:36PM (#34449308)
The US number is also artificially inflated by their unusual healthcare system - in most developed countries healthcare is paid for from taxes or mandatory insurance (which is deducted from that measure), whereas in the US it's considered to be paid from disposable income.
Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by theGnuMe on Friday January 20, 2023 @05:50AM (#34451289)
Nah FSA to pay copays is tax free as are standard premiums. So you can pay your copays tax free the problem is you have to get your utilization correct since it is use it or lose it.
Re:The Grapes of Wrath was banned in the USSR because showed... by lmm on Saturday January 21, 2023 @03:43AM (#34464919)
They're tax free but they're still considered part of your disposable income since you can choose not to pay them.