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Re:AcousticBrainz: Making a hard decision to end the project... by CharlesW on Thursday January 19, 2023 @09:43AM (#34440783)
According to TFA, even if they had copies of every song they'd ever analyzed they'd still need to re-start from scratch. The reason they're not is:

"…we don’t have the resources and developer availability to perform this kind of research ourselves, and so we rely on the assistance of other researchers and volunteers to help us integrate new tools into AcousticBrainz, which is a relationship that we haven’t managed to build over the last few years."

If the RIAA was to blame, Pandora's Music Genome Project and other music analysis/recommendation systems wouldn't exist.

Re:AcousticBrainz: Making a hard decision to end the project... by wpietri on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:42AM (#34441492)
I think your main point is correct, but the Music Genome Project had experts humans listening to each and every song. It originally started out to build music-store recommendation kiosks (yes kids, music used to be sold in physical stores), and it took them 5 years to pivot to streaming audio. Given when they started, I expect that they just bought a lot of CDs to start. By the time they got into streaming, they of course had licenses. So Pandora didn't defy RIAA; they spent money and built business relationships, two things unavailable here.
Re:AcousticBrainz: Making a hard decision to end the project... by Cthulhu_ on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:12AM (#34441129)
I know Spotify does a lot of analysis and clever things with the music on their platform, but there's the kicker, they actually have licenses and whatnot to the music, which I'm sure includes a clause for statistical / data-driven analysis.

I wonder if that license extends to deriving a ML model from it. I know there's some ML models out there already that can produce music based on a prompt, but that'll be limited to what music the authors have available to them. Spotify (and Apple Music, and the others) have millions upon millions of tracks available to them.

Re:AcousticBrainz: Making a hard decision to end the project... by jorvi on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:58PM (#34448271)
> I know Spotify does a lot of analysis and clever things with the music on their platform

Do they?

I have ‘melancholic’ and ‘I want to hype myself up’ playlists. Both from the tone of the music, voice, and lyrics (even the titles, I’d say) it is extremely obvious what the overarching vibe of the playlist is. Yet the radio-mode of those playlist or the recommendations below the playlist are fairly obviously just “other people who played the songs in this playlist also liked these songs”.

As far as I can tell there are no deep analysis smarts at work, or even something like EveryNoiseAtOnce.

Re:AcousticBrainz: Making a hard decision to end the project... by d4mi3n on Thursday January 19, 2023 @01:52PM (#34444014)
I suspect the RIAA might even be favor of supporting recommendation services—after all, matching people to music they like promotes music sales. RIAA members have a strongly vested interest in selling more music.