Fake Meat Was Supposed to Save the World. It Became Just Another Fad

Re:Fake Meat Was Supposed to Save the World. It Became Just ... by raspberry1337 on Thursday January 19, 2023 @05:11AM (#34438635)

What looks reasonable to you might not look reasonable to someone else, like someone that strives to avoid seed oils and other industrial products and live above 90 years of age.

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Re:Fake Meat Was Supposed to Save the World. It Became Just ... by the-smug-one on Thursday January 19, 2023 @06:16AM (#34439095)

Haha, do you believe that olive oil isn't made on a large ("industrial") scale? Or lard, or tallow, for that matter. Man, this is just more FUD, scientists aren't arguing about this, shitty fitness influencers are. But hey, I do hope that you live to 90 or above, cool goal. I just hope you don't waste too much time listening to Joe Rogan. I'm not gonna waste more of my precious (and I guess to you very short) life on this. For science based fitness advice I like Stronger by Science, but I've also heard that Barbell Medicine is good.

Cheers.

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Re:Fake Meat Was Supposed to Save the World. It Became Just ... by tomcam on Thursday January 19, 2023 @06:35AM (#34439224)

Username checks out

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Re:Fake Meat Was Supposed to Save the World. It Became Just ... by PurpleRamen on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:24AM (#34439987)

Large scale is not the same as industrial product. Nearly all food sold is made in large scale. But industrial means going one or more steps further. Processing food changes it. If you sell an apple, even if you harvest a million of them, means you still have an apple. But taking the apple, processing it in some oil, juice, jam and what else, means you have industrialized it, and made something new, with new problems.

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Re:Fake Meat Was Supposed to Save the World. It Became Just ... by inferiorhuman on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:59AM (#34440307)

Put another way treating meat with ammonia or chlorine and whatever else to turn it into a salable whole chicken or pink slime comes with its own problems.

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Re:Fake Meat Was Supposed to Save the World. It Became Just ... by raspberry1337 on Friday January 20, 2023 @04:21AM (#34450707)

Anytime someone says "scientists arent arguing about popular topic x", a new Einstein gets aborted.

"Cooked vegetable oil worsened inflammation in the colon, enhanced tumor growth, promoted gut leakage, and caused harmful bacterial products to leak." https://www.foundmyfitness.com/news/s/dtqdmb

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Re:Fake Meat Was Supposed to Save the World. It Became Just ... by tpush on Thursday January 19, 2023 @07:38AM (#34439666)

Avoiding "seed oils" is a mania made up by internet grifters; if you cared about science you'd want to replace animal fats with (non-tropic) vegetable oils!

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Re:Fake Meat Was Supposed to Save the World. It Became Just ... by m000 on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:37AM (#34440080)

> Avoiding "seed oils" is a mania made up by internet grifters

Yes, a big FU to those guys. They are akin to conspiracy theorists that will cherry-pick quotes from studies they don't understand and don't cite (how to you even cite something on Instagram?) and spread BS opinions for clicks.

Because of that crap, the <1.8% sunflower oil in your favourite milk substitute becomes a substantial health risk overnight, and you have to hold debates with your partner/family to debunk their falsehoods.

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Re:Fake Meat Was Supposed to Save the World. It Became Just ... by raspberry1337 on Friday January 20, 2023 @04:24AM (#34450722)

https://www.foundmyfitness.com/news/s/dtqdmb

"Cooked vegetable oil worsened inflammation in the colon, enhanced tumor growth, promoted gut leakage, and caused harmful bacterial products to leak into the bloodstream in mice.

This study used canola oil which is high in polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) as are other vegetable oils such as soy and corn. PUFAs are prone to oxidation which was shown to be the mechanism causing damage in this study.

Other cooking oils and fats that are not high in PUFAs such as avocado oil, olive oil, coconut oil, and butter are not likely to have the same effect. One thing to keep in mind is that olive oil has a low smoke point so when frying things at very high temperatures avocado oil may be a better option since it has a high smoke point."

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Re:Fake Meat Was Supposed to Save the World. It Became Just ... by inferiorhuman on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:21AM (#34439968)

So for all the fear mongering your main (or only) concern with Impossible is the sunflower oil?

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