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Re:Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Departme... by LarryMullins on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @04:30PM (#34433378)
> metric [...] morally evil

I've never heard an American complain that Coca Cola is sold by the liter. There's no moral component to Americans not wanting to switch to metric. It's simply a matter of the switch and retooling being more hassle than continuing to use American customary units. Frankly, the difference seems to bother Europeans a lot more than it bothers Americans.

Re:Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Departme... by riffraff on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @05:06PM (#34433808)
> Frankly, the difference seems to bother Europeans a lot more than it bothers Americans.

Probably because European consume a lot of content from the US which makes little sense to them

Re:Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Departme... by atonse on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @06:26PM (#34434630)
Same observation here. We (Americans) just don’t care. Not like we’re sitting here huffing and puffing about metric.

Nobody. Cares.

At the end of the day, the one you’re used to is the one that makes more sense. There is no system that is objectively better “in all situations.”

Most people that strongly argue that one is better than the other are usually just saying “it’s better cuz I’m used to it”

Re:Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Departme... by Moru on Thursday January 19, 2023 @02:22AM (#34437610)
One argument would be "the best system is the one that everyone agrees on" [1]. Lower risk for big mistakes.

[1] https://everydayastronaut.com/mars-climate-orbiter/

Re:Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Departme... by atonse on Thursday January 19, 2023 @09:30AM (#34440627)
These always make for fun news articles but that's because these situations are rare.

Again, nobody, anywhere that I'm aware of, is sitting around insisting for imperial units as a matter of principle. We just don't care. We use and learn metric where we use it (all the sciences, chemistry, physics, etc in American schools are taught in metric). And we use imperial where we use it, mostly in daily life. And it's perfectly fine.

For example, I personally prefer grams (more because of weight, but still preferred to ounces) to cups (volume) in recipes because it removes density as a variable (a packed cup of flour vs a loose cup of flour)

Re:Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Departme... by LarryMullins on Thursday January 19, 2023 @03:44PM (#34445363)
> "everyone agrees on"

"Everyone" in what scope? For an international team of engineers and scientists, the answer is obviously metric. But if "everybody" in the relevant context is other tradesmen in America, then "everybody" agrees on the American customary units. It doesn't matter to the latter what the former pick.

Re:Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Departme... by anthk on Thursday January 19, 2023 @06:50AM (#34439341)
Metric is easier. How does the humanity count? By using powers of 10. The usability it's right there. Just keep adding zeros.
Re:Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Departme... by atonse on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:57AM (#34440285)
But you've just stated that metric is easier mathematically. And I agree with you 100%, for that use case.

But C/F makes absolutely no difference in understanding the weather. Or cooking temperatures. Apart from measuring body temperature and possibly controlled lab environments, there is no situation in life where you need to break temperatures into 1/10 units or benchmark the weather on the boiling/freezing temperatures of water at sea level (I'm talking about the population at large, not meteorologists).

Miles/KM make absolutely no difference in understanding the distance you need to drive somewhere. The fact that a KM is 1000m does nothing to help you understand that the neighboring city is 40 miles (or 64km, or 64,000m) away.

Inches/MM make no difference when I'm doing woodworking. Although, again, no doubt doing the math is easier in mm than adding/removing fractions for inches.

My point is that, one can agree with the simplicity and standardization of the metric system (and I love its consistency) and also argue that it makes no difference in daily life.

Re:Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Departme... by abduhl on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @08:54PM (#34435799)
The metric vs imperial discussion reminds me of Android vs iPhone discussions: Android users tend to care a lot more that their text message bubbles are green than the iPhone users do.
Re:Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Departme... by theYipster on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @10:27PM (#34436368)
Ha! The rest of the world uses WhatsApp.
Re:Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Departme... by midoridensha on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @08:59PM (#34435837)
>I've never heard an American complain that Coca Cola is sold by the liter. There's no moral component to Americans not wanting to switch to metric.

There is, it's just that Americans are happy to overlook it here and there for completely arbitrary reasons.

Re:Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Departme... by LarryMullins on Thursday January 19, 2023 @03:48PM (#34445396)
> There is,

Show me the evidence. Where are these Americans sincerely claiming that metric is immoral?

Re:Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Departme... by wolverine876 on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @09:37PM (#34436093)
The American military uses metric.
Re:Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Departme... by int_19h on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @10:51PM (#34436500)
The reason why the rest of the world cares more is because US is literally the only country that hasn't switched that "matters" (for engineering and business purposes). Until y'all do that, everybody else has to contend with two systems at least occasionally because of commerce, tourism etc. Once you do, it's just metric going forward, which makes things so much easier for everyone. Standards produce the most benefit when they're truly universal.