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Re:Microsoft to lay off 11,000 employees by MuffinFlavored on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:16PM (#34418232)
What % of their work force is 11k employees? Article says 5%.

Would also be curious to know what % of the 11k are engineers/breakdown by department/org, etc.

Re:Microsoft to lay off 11,000 employees by anonporridge on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:20PM (#34418313)
Yeah, 5% is a small, manageable number. Small enough that if you find you accidentally cut important people or roles, you can quickly get them back.

The point in my second paragraph is that if the company actually needs a 15% layoff to maintain itself long term, it would be safest to do it in three smaller 5% waves rather than one fell swoop. After each layoff, you let the system settle and recover, making sure that the body is still generally healthy before continuing with the next operation.

Re:Microsoft to lay off 11,000 employees by estebank on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:24PM (#34418378)
> it would be safest to do it in three smaller 5% waves rather than one fell swoop

This disregards the effect of repeated layoffs on the morale and mental health of human beings, which affects how "the system" settles and recovers.

Re:Microsoft to lay off 11,000 employees by gota on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:41PM (#34418671)
Part of the second and third wave can take the form of a hiring freeze or slowdown. People who quit are not replaced and soon you have a 5% reduction in headcount
Re:Microsoft to lay off 11,000 employees by Aperocky on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @05:15PM (#34420208)
Only the best (or the dauntless, but they are a minority) quit in the present climate, soon the corporation will have a 3-5% reduction in their best performers.
Re:Microsoft to lay off 11,000 employees by marcosdumay on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @05:23PM (#34420326)
So you further evaporate the Dead Sea?

How many competent people do you expect to stay until the end?

Re:Microsoft to lay off 11,000 employees by anonporridge on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:34PM (#34418539)
Absolutely!

I think it really depends on the overall health and strength of the corporate body and the external environmental conditions it's struggling to survive in. Sometimes ripping off the bandaid quickly is the best of many bad options.

However, you also have to consider that seeing a larger percentage of your teammates cut loose might be more psychologically damaging than just that one guy who everyone kind of knew was a poor performer anyway.

Re:Microsoft to lay off 11,000 employees by jvanderbot on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:35PM (#34418548)
Generally speaking, they probably want about 5% loss / year, so they can continuously hire new starts and eliminate vacated positions as required.