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Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by dbg31415 on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @01:56PM (#34416964)
The M2 Air has MagSafe. (=

Killing MagSafe has to be the singled DUMBEST product decision anyone ever made.

I'm so glad they finally brought it back.

Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by prewett on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @02:10PM (#34417164)
I thought killing MagSafe was pretty dumb, too, but every time I tripped over the USB-C power cable on my 2018 MBP it came right out, no problem. Plus it's really nice to be able to move the power cable to whichever side the outlet is close to. When I upgrade, I think I'd choose to continue using USB-C power if possible.

I'll actually miss the Touch Bar. It's an interesting idea that seems useful, but isn't, except in one very useful case: it's really nice being able to slide the volume to exactly where I want it. With the keys back I'll have to memorize Shift+Option+VolumeUp (or whatever it is).

Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by jrochkind1 on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @02:39PM (#34417570)
> When I upgrade, I think I'd choose to continue using USB-C power if possible.

It is possible. You can ignore the magsafe and power via any of the USB-C ports on the MBPs that also have magsafe, definitely.

Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by rconti on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @02:16PM (#34417243)
I've also tripped on a magsafe cord and watched my 2011 air fly off the table and bounce+flip on my wood floor, so it's not a panacea. I think the right-angle ones were more prone to yanking your machine off the table, especially if pulled perpendicular to the magnetic connection.

Thankfully, the computer was perfectly fine.

Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by theturtletalks on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @02:16PM (#34417251)
Without Apple removing MagSafe, we wouldn’t have had USB-C charging on MacBooks.
Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by godzillabrennus on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @02:22PM (#34417321)
At least until the European Union forced them too…
Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by jokethrowaway on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @02:33PM (#34417478)
I tripped on my usbc cord and broke the cable
Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @02:51PM (#34417783)
The MacBook Air at least still supports USB-C power, which is useful for USB-C monitors that also supply power. But I still think you need to plug it in on the right side to avoid overheating the laptop (the MBA at least doesn't have a fan, so I can't tell if this is still true or not).
Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by peterloron on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:42PM (#34418682)
My 2021 MBP 16" M1 Max doesn't get hot with the USB-C power connected to the left side. Unknown if that's still an issue with the Air.
Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by ProZsolt on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:44PM (#34418725)
It would be pretty hard to put a charge on the right side as it only have a headphone jack there every other port (2xUSB+Magsafe) is on the left.

On the other hand, my M1 Pro MacBook Pro don't have any problem charging on either side, not like my previous Intel.

Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by jrochkind1 on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @02:10PM (#34417167)
Oh, I missed that! and then it has one usb port, or two? If it has two plus magsafe and i had noticed, i might have bought that!
Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by msk-lywenn on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @02:18PM (#34417276)
It has two USB-Cs and magsafe on the left side, audio jack on the right side. I wish it had an HDMI too. I might buy a USB-C-HDMI cable at some point.
Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by jrochkind1 on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @02:30PM (#34417429)
Thanks!

In retrospect, I think i would have bought the Air! I somehow thought the Air still had only two USB-Cs, one of which would be occupied by power if plugged in. Which was not enough. Two USB-Cs plus a separate magsafe would, barely, be enough for me.

the price difference is not huge once I put in 16GB of RAM and a 1TB HD. But the smaller size of the Air is nice! I suspect even the Air is enough CPU for me, although the new M2 MBP seems like a lot more CPU I think.

Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by djtriptych on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @02:06PM (#34417126)
It's like they sandbagged themselves knowing they were going to change the whole game in a few years.
Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by jclardy on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:18PM (#34418281)
I’m glad to have it as an option, but I think I’ve used my magsafe cable for charging two times in the past two years. The incredible battery life + switching my desk setup to USB-C means I pretty much never need to charge outside of normal usage at my desk
Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by ProZsolt on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:40PM (#34418638)
Back then I liked the Magsafe, but the my new Macbook's Magsafe cable is still in the box. With 12+ hours of battery life I barely charge it when I use it and when I'm it is usually at my desk connected to my monitor via USB-C.

When I'm on the go I only want to bring one charger and cable for backup for every device, which is USB-C. (I don't own an iPhone)

Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by interpol_p on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @09:24PM (#34422690)
I have never used the MagSafe connector for my 14" MBP. It either sits docked with my monitor which provides power over USB-C, or when I take it, I don't take the power brick. I've taken it camping over three days and never had to charge, so having a dedicated charging port doesn't really suit my use (also not a fan of them adding HDMI back to the machine)