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Re:NSA asks Congress to let it get on with that warrantless ... by exabrial on Sunday January 15, 2023 @08:35PM (#34395742)
The problem is an increasing majority of people in the US treat their political party as a religion.
Re:NSA asks Congress to let it get on with that warrantless ... by edgyquant on Sunday January 15, 2023 @08:45PM (#34395811)
An increasing minority of democrats do. Republicans tend to have a religion already so they try to leave that stuff to the church.
Re:NSA asks Congress to let it get on with that warrantless ... by woodruffw on Sunday January 15, 2023 @09:01PM (#34395931)
Where does this come from? The religious foundations of the current GOP are well attested[1].

The historical conventional wisdom around the US's political parties is that Democrats fall in love (meaning that they abstain from voting over minor political differences), while Republicans fall in line (meaning that they hold their nose and vote for whoever the party ticket is). That's changed a little bit over the the last decade, but not appreciably so.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Majority

Re:NSA asks Congress to let it get on with that warrantless ... by TimTheTinker on Sunday January 15, 2023 @09:58PM (#34396309)
In my opinion, Republicans are less falling in line and more voting against the other side.

American politics today are about thesis/antithesis, where the thesis is whatever the latest liberal agenda is and the antithesis is everyone who normally disagrees with each other, but is united in a common disagreement with the Democratic Party.

In this environment, there's only one political thesis (not antithesis) that has more than a very small percentage of the vote.

Re:NSA asks Congress to let it get on with that warrantless ... by hobs on Sunday January 15, 2023 @09:16PM (#34396009)
What makes you say that when preachers are actively testing the laws regarding non-profit status, widely reported to support GOP legislators who are using their religion as the basis for their platforms on abortion.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/10/30/johnson-amendment-el... https://www.newsnationnow.com/religion/churches-politics-pul...

Re:NSA asks Congress to let it get on with that warrantless ... by doubleg72 on Sunday January 15, 2023 @08:56PM (#34395897)
No, they definitely do not. They are unable to distinguish their religion from the values they think the republican party represent.
Re:NSA asks Congress to let it get on with that warrantless ... by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Sunday January 15, 2023 @09:10PM (#34395980)
I reflexively agreed, but then I hesitated, because some of my recent discussions with other people suggest that to them, in an abstract, it is just that.. some far fetched abstract impossibility. My most recent like conversation was extra depressing, because I was not only given 'nothing to hide' argument, but it also was followed with 'you gotta trust the system'.

I want to blame politicization and very clear 'us vs them' sentiment, but I am no longer certain that is the entire reason for current craziness. I am not sure non-tech people understand what is at stake.

To me it is an episode of Dark Mirror 'The entire history of you'. And they do not get it why it is a very bad idea to make a new normal.

Re:NSA asks Congress to let it get on with that warrantless ... by BariumBlue on Monday January 16, 2023 @12:21AM (#34397120)
I would say as a tribe, rather than as a religion. Religion involves some combo of supernatural and ethical beliefs. Tribes are about in-group out-group status and conflict.