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Re:The Shit Show by pmarreck on Sunday January 15, 2023 @05:03PM (#34394045)
OK, I have to ask- What exactly was your argument against MP3's? They literally let you transfer music with an order of magnitude less data than it took on the CD! Was it an audiophile argument, or...?

I was lucky enough to live in a freshman college dorm (a music-focused dorm, no less!) circa 1997-1998 when Napster was still a thing right after MP3's were a thing, and that shit was amaaaaazing

I mean given how much people love music, I never had any doubt that MP3's would be revolutionary

Re:The Shit Show by tptacek on Sunday January 15, 2023 @05:24PM (#34394260)
In the set-associative cache that was my brain in 1998, MP3s occupied the same slot as XDCC'd Amiga mods. But much bigger files. I was carrying around giant folders of CDs at the time. Also: you had to listen to them... on your computer? I had a whole discrete stereo system. Why would I want to listen to music through game speakers?
Re:The Shit Show by tremon on Sunday January 15, 2023 @06:07PM (#34394667)
Didn't your discrete stereo system have external inputs? I've had an analog cable from my computer's line-out to the stereo system's aux-in from pretty much the same day that my parents let me have my own pc in my bedroom (which was 1996, I think).

These days it's a USB cable rather than a cinch cable, and vorbis/flac rather than mp3, but my PC has been my main music player for more than 25 years -- and the only pair of "game" speakers I've owned were positioned in the living room. Come to think of it, those speakers may very well have been the reason I was allowed a computer in my bedroom :)

Anyway... thank you for prompting that trip down memory lane, I enjoyed it.

Re:The Shit Show by tptacek on Sunday January 15, 2023 @06:13PM (#34394712)
I mean, to be clear, I did eventually come around on MP3s! I don't still lug a 15 pound folder of CDs around with me everywhere. It just took me longer than everyone else. :)

To put a timeline on this: I also ended up buying one of those Empeg in-dash MP3 players.

Re:The Shit Show by mhio on Sunday January 15, 2023 @06:22PM (#34394790)
3.5mm to RCA adapters were a thing! Usually very, very long ones.
Re:The Shit Show by dqft on Sunday January 15, 2023 @10:16PM (#34396407)
My PC is still connected 3.5mm to RCA to a old stereo box to my Dad's old full size JL430w Kenwoods which use the same 40 year old speaker wires. Still great sound!
Re:The Shit Show by count on Sunday January 15, 2023 @05:16PM (#34394189)
Napster didn't start until 1999 :) I remember downloading mp3s on Napster, and then using my parallel port to transfer them to my Diamond Rio MP3 player. All 4 songs at a time!
Re:The Shit Show by pmarreck on Sunday January 15, 2023 @05:33PM (#34394346)
It was probably just FTP through the school's network then, but I distinctly remember sharing MP3's like it was the Wild West
Re:The Shit Show by riceart on Sunday January 15, 2023 @05:21PM (#34394233)
Before Napster there was FTP.
Re:The Shit Show by williamcotton on Sunday January 15, 2023 @05:31PM (#34394326)
The first MP3 I downloaded was from IRC and played back on the Fraunhofer Institute MP3 player. Old timers will remember that if you caused your screen to redraw at all, say by scrolling a window, the audio would skip. The first song? Bob Dylan - Stuck in the Middle With You… which is actually by Steeler’s Wheel.
Re:The Shit Show by stavros on Sunday January 15, 2023 @09:44PM (#34396210)
Oh man, I remember when the Xing MP3 encoder was the only one that could encode in near-realtime on my 100 MHz Pentium back in the day.
Re:The Shit Show by kibibu on Monday January 16, 2023 @01:11AM (#34397415)
And it applied an exciting washy flanger effect to the cymbals as well
Re:The Shit Show by giantrobot on Sunday January 15, 2023 @06:14PM (#34394714)
An F-serves on IRC. Much respect to the glorious bastards running FTPs and F-serves off their dorm ResNet connections. The rest of us poor slobs on dial-up could actually max out our downstream bandwidth.
Re:The Shit Show by raydev on Sunday January 15, 2023 @07:45PM (#34395374)
There were also quite a few websites that just straight up hosted MP2s/MP3s for public download. I can't recall domain names but I do remember .se and .ru being common tlds.

I couldn't read a single word of Swedish or Russian, but my friends and I figured out how to navigate to the music downloads.

Re:The Shit Show by amatecha on Monday January 16, 2023 @02:03AM (#34397747)
Yeah, when I snagged my first ""backup"" mp3 of an amazing piece of music I had never before heard (I think it was "Megalomaniac" by KMFDM) in a measly 3 megs or so, I knew this format was about to take the world by storm. It was blatantly obvious.

I remember my processor struggled so much even playing it, I basically had to just listen to the mp3 on its own. I eventually figured out I could play 96kbps mp3s without slowing things down too much. These were such amazing times for me, suddenly exposed to an entire planet of music there's zero possible chance I would have otherwise heard.

Re:The Shit Show by pmarreck on Sunday January 22, 2023 @05:39PM (#34483015)
KMFDM is admittedly pretty awesome to discover