“Song of the South” is a Disney film and the first film to mix live action with animation. One might think with that historic meaning, it would be preserved.

But it’s impossible to find. Even eBay has banned sale of the DVD.

Fortunately I have a copy my father ripped to DVD from some unknown source sometime in the 90s. It’s poor quality.

If you look into it, Disney (because, well... money, not any actual guilt) actually sold VHS tapes from the 90s to the early 00s in many countries except the US. Many "bootleg" copies originate from them.

You can find the VHS on eBay for ~$40-$50 from the UK.

Also “ The Princess and the Frog “ and “ Mary Poppins “ (1964)

What about them? The Princess and the Frog is from 2009.

There’s many earlier versions of that story ex: “The Frog (1908)”

But I don’t know which is being referred to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Frog_Prince

Sure. But the one titled The Princess and the Frog is 2009.

Yea, but it was a common way to describe the story before Disney titled their movie that way.

So, I wasn’t sure if they where suggesting a VHS version of that 2009 movie existed, making reference to the meme around the 2009 movie being a throwback, or just something else.

Interesting. I guess VHS is the low-quality source of my DVD rip.

Another thing you can look into, here's the secret words: Canción del sur.

The film went public domain in Spain. And surprise, there's some boutique resellers in Spain who do DVDs and Blu-rays... and add language tracks...

https://www.amazon.com/Song-South-Blu-Ray-Reg-Spain/dp/B09BD...

Thanks!!

I mean, it's available right here: https://archive.org/details/SongOfTheSouthHD

But also worth noting that it _wasn't_ the first to mix live action with animation. It had been used in shorts and experiments all the way back to 1900, but for a full-length film, Warner Bros. released You Ought to Be in Pictures in 1940. And The Three Cabelleros beat it by nearly two years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRIBUlP3GC4

More on that history here: https://www.motionpictures.org/2013/07/from-gene-kelly-to-th...

eBay banning the sale of the DVD is extremely dystopian

Why is it an issue for eBay to ban it when there's already a list of prohibited categories of items?

It's easy enough to download a copy of it if you're interested in banned items.

Because it's a value judgement. It's one thing to say "we don't deal in porn and guns" but to then pick specific media they do deal in and say "oh and also this one" imparts the kind of fine-grained value judgement that it's inappropriate for an eCommerce platform to be making.

I see your point, but there's also value judgements with other categories. How is an "adult" or "pornography" item defined?

Personally, I don't have an issue with a business choosing to ban or allow items as it's their platform and their business choice. If they choose to not sell any lithium batteries due to their flammable nature, then that would also be acceptable and not in my mind dystopian. There's arguably some risk in being involved with sending potentially offensive media through the mail.

it's a private company

Is there any more dystopian than Google editing Frank Zappa’s track listings because of a single track?

> Any Tom and Jerry episode involving Mammy Two Shoes

Since I watched Tom and Jerry cartoons many, many times, I just looked up who this is (although I kinda had inferred it, there aren't that many characters in Tom and Jerry :)) and why she's a problem.

Curiously, I always thought she was the owner of the house, so any racist undertones were totally lost on me (note that I'm not American). (I did get that they were quite sexist, no man doing housework ever).

I don't deny the racist intent, but it's funny how one needs the cultural context to get that. I hope in a few decades it will be lost on every kid.

Mammy was lost on pretty much every kid, even in America. Her relevance resurfaced when 'problematic' became part of the common nomenclature to describe such caricatures. If she was, as we say, problematic, there would've been a helluva lot more racist kids running around, probably.

>> If she was, as we say, problematic, there would've been a helluva lot more racist kids running around, probably.

That's not how those things work. And from the outside looking in, there seem to be quite a few racists in the age group that crew up with Tom and Jerry...

Oh please.

Pretty much all these old tropes that we today consider stereotypes about who is at what station in life, and what what kinds of businesses and activities various races and nationalities engage in are completely and totally irrelevant in an age where the help may be any color, the laundromat could be run by anybody, the banker's religion is a toss up and the immigrant tradesman could be from almost any corner of the earth. Without the day to day reality of a living in a mostly racially/ethnically segregated (by law or by cultural norm, doesn't really matter) for these tropes to reinforce they are meaningless as stereotypes. Their only use is for people like you to earn a few quick social credit points taking a stand against.

If Mammy Two Shoes is a racist stereotype and the cone-hatted slitty-eyed "Ching Chong Chinaman" is a racist stereotype (they are, at that) then so are all the bagpipe-playing violent ginger Scotsmen, and all the slow-witted straw-chewing Irishmen, or indeed the "dumb Southerner" stereotypes.

I mean here's the problem:

You don't actually even really see her. Mammy appears for like 5-10 seconds in a handful of episodes and all she does is hit Tom or tell him to catch that mouse. At best, as a kid, you could inference that she's mean to Tom and hits him for not catching Jerry. That's literally it. If that's enough to cause people to go into a tirade of unabashed racism, them yeah, America is absolutely fucked and throttled.

But racism today is so much more constrained and things are so much better now that the fact that you think this is problem today is quite frankly offensive.

> Curiously, I always thought she was the owner of the house...

Same here. I always thought she was the "mom" of the house. It wasn't until I was an adult that I had enough context to understand the undertones.