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Re:There Was Nothing “Wasted” About My Youth Spent Clubbing ... by fckgnad on Saturday January 14, 2023 @06:20AM (#34379352)
All feelings, drug induced, or not aren't really there. None of it is real.

Truth is just an expression. I use it in the same light as "profoundness".

I understand the stigma associated with the drug. But the emotions generated by the drugs themselves are in reality actualized by the brain and that actualization cannot be invalidated. It is worth it to ask, think and wonder about this actualization even when you have no plans around taking the drugs yourself.

Re:There Was Nothing “Wasted” About My Youth Spent Clubbing ... by 400thecat on Saturday January 14, 2023 @06:30AM (#34379432)
heroine and Meth are not hallucinogenic drugs. I have never taken MDMA, but I did try DMT and psiloscybin. These experiences were profound. Further, the risk is almost zero. DMT is anti-addictive. I took it few times, and I don't ever want to repeat it
Re:There Was Nothing “Wasted” About My Youth Spent Clubbing ... by fckgnad on Saturday January 14, 2023 @06:37AM (#34379473)
The topic at hand here is not hallucinogenic drugs. MDMA is not hallucinogenic.

The topic at hand is centered around drugs that generate pleasure. You're a little left field with hallucinogenic drugs. I'm sure there's some sort of "profoundness" there as well but it's a different topic.

Re:There Was Nothing “Wasted” About My Youth Spent Clubbing ... by thesaintlives on Saturday January 14, 2023 @07:46AM (#34379878)
Pure MDMA is most certainly hallucinogenic...
Re:There Was Nothing “Wasted” About My Youth Spent Clubbing ... by sirsinsalot on Saturday January 14, 2023 @08:27AM (#34380171)
im not sure minor visuals count, ive done 250mg+ pure in one setting and it was at best minor.
Re:There Was Nothing “Wasted” About My Youth Spent Clubbing ... by thesaintlives on Saturday January 14, 2023 @02:33PM (#34383309)
The best MDMA I ever had (I had plenty) was in Hong Kong, full on hallucinations. Good MDMA, visuals, no question about it.
Re:There Was Nothing “Wasted” About My Youth Spent Clubbing ... by _a_a_a_ on Saturday January 14, 2023 @09:13AM (#34380452)
Use MDMA regularly when I can afford it, never had hallucinations. Don't know of anyone who's used it and hallucinated either.
Re:There Was Nothing “Wasted” About My Youth Spent Clubbing ... by sirsinsalot on Saturday January 14, 2023 @07:14AM (#34379676)
This.

It's like saying the pleasure you feel when you eat a food you like isn't real.

Or the feelings you feel when someone kisses you aren't real.

Drawing arbitrary lines around what is real feeling based on the stimuli is very strange and usually driven by ignorance or fear.

Re:There Was Nothing “Wasted” About My Youth Spent Clubbing ... by jojobas on Saturday January 14, 2023 @07:21AM (#34379714)
If you made a drug that would make you feel as if you were kissing, you sensation of kissing would not be true, as there would be no kissing going on.

Same goes for bonding, closeness and so on. You just tricked your brain into hallucinating emotional responses for things that are not there.

Re:There Was Nothing “Wasted” About My Youth Spent Clubbing ... by sirsinsalot on Saturday January 14, 2023 @07:55AM (#34379934)
It is actually more like salt.

Salt enhances the flavour of food, MDMA enhances the experience that's already there.

It doesn't just invent the feelings, instead amplifies the feelings you have.

Is salt just fake taste?

Re:There Was Nothing “Wasted” About My Youth Spent Clubbing ... by coyotespike on Saturday January 14, 2023 @10:50AM (#34381180)
I partly agree and partly disagree.

If you think MDMA is giving you a feeling of deep friendship with a perfect stranger, then you might be hallucinating the feeling of a long and strong relationship.

However, that's not really the feeling you're getting on molly. It's more recognizing the preciousness of our shared humanity. If done with a friend or a lover, this in itself is a genuine bonding experience. If done with a stranger, you're not expecting anything more after the experience, but it still feels valuable.