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Re:We need a lot more electricians if we’re going to electri... by jacquesm on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:49PM (#34344522)
In the UK, yes, in lots of other parts of the world they are integrated into the circuit breakers.
Re:We need a lot more electricians if we’re going to electri... by metadat on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:50PM (#34344545)
Would this be a regular circuit breaker fuse? Otherwise what's different?
Re:We need a lot more electricians if we’re going to electri... by jacquesm on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:56PM (#34344642)
If single phase you'll notice sometimes it has a little extra ground wire connected (now mostly obsolete), for 3 phase it doesn't, in both cases it will say so on the outside (typically: the test current, and usually there is a test button which makes them easy to identify, this test button forces a small leak causing the circuit to become unbalanced resulting in a trip (if it doesn't trip when the test button is pressed the breaker is considered faulty and should be replaced).

For instance, here is an 'Eaton' 3 phase breaker with integrated ground fault protection circuitry:

https://www.omnical.co/products/eaton/1742431/2259595

Note the little yellow 'test' button. That's a 30 mA fault current device, you can have higher permissible fault currents for certain gear that tends to be a bit more leaky which would otherwise cause nuisance trips. These little things are quite the work of art inside, if you ever have a faulty one I would encourage you to pick it apart to see what makes it tick.

Re:We need a lot more electricians if we’re going to electri... by antonjs on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @04:13PM (#34344947)
Circuit breakers trip when there's too much current going through the circuit (enough to melt the wiring for example), and so protect from short-circuits: hot and neutral touching each other, or a short in equipment.

GFCIs protect against current leaking to ground, by detecting if the current flowing on a hot and neutral leg are different. If they're different, the current must be going somewhere else: to ground, through you, etc. The GFCI breakers do this in the breaker, the outlets do it at the outlet. As someone else mentioned, you can also have other non-GFCI outlets chained to a GFCI outlet, so that upstream outlet is the one that pops if there's a fault.

TL;DR they detect and protect against different fault conditions.