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Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by goodpoint on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:23PM (#34344102)
> only wealth can be created or destroyed, not poverty, which is the absence of wealth

This is plain false. Your ape ancestor was born with free access to trees, fruits etc. Take away that and you created poverty.

> there has never been a paradise where resources are communally owned

Wrong again. The ape is a good example.

Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by bhhaskin on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:28PM (#34344188)
Apes are highly territorial and aggressive.
Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by goodpoint on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:31PM (#34344227)
...which only proves my point. They are territorial, like many other animals, and they don't pay rent.
Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by bhhaskin on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:37PM (#34344338)
But we also don't fight the landlord or other tenants to the death for an apartment. And that isn't even getting into the quality of life.
Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by goodpoint on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:49PM (#34344521)
Maybe we should start. /s

EDIT: Added /s in case it wasn't obvious...

Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by baggy_trough on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:58PM (#34344672)
To avoid being a "planet full of assholes" by working and buying things, we should go back to killing people to take their territory?
Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by stickfigure on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:43PM (#34344436)
They fight over that "free" territory and when they lose, they die.

Property rights, money, and rent are a strictly superior solution, especially among billions of apes.

Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by goodpoint on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:51PM (#34344562)
And yet it still proves my point, which is pretty much the same an TFA.

Defending a territory with your life might be stressful and I never claimed it's good life but it something any animal can do without having to go against some other animal that inherited vast land from their ancestor.

TFA is pretty clear and yes some people here are trying very hard not to see the point.