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Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by dinosaurdynasty on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:15PM (#34343985)
So we should let those who can't work die?
Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by credit_guy on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:19PM (#34344045)
The U in UBI stands for "Universal". The vast majority of the people can work.

Just like we don't let people who come to the Emergency Room die because they can't pay, we, as a society, can take care of the few people who, for reasons like mental health, or physical ailment, can't work.

Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by thegrim33 on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:24PM (#34344130)
I think you managed to fit multiple logical fallacies in a single sentence ... the person you're replying to is not suggesting they die, and there's solutions to the problem other than UBI, for example, what we already have .. social welfare programs for people that's can't work.
Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by em-bee on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @04:03PM (#34344781)
how is that any different?

currently those that can't find work (even if they are capable) are getting social welfare.

all UBI is doing is that this welfare is given to everyone unconditionally. so the benefit does not go to those that can't find work but also to those that do find work. who then have the freedom to take breaks (when they have kids for example) because they are covered by UBI. and at the same time free up space for someone else who wants to work but can't find work.

Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by Sakos on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:18PM (#34344040)
This is HN. Did you expect any different from these people? Tech is a breeding ground for idiotic libertarian fuck-you-got-mine perspectives.
Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by goodpoint on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:25PM (#34344139)
Spot on.
Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by kodyo on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:23PM (#34344096)
There are plenty of Marxist-Leninists here.
Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by bhhaskin on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:24PM (#34344117)
There is a difference between those that can't work and those that choose not to work.
Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by commandlinefan on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:24PM (#34344131)
No, you should definitely provide for their care.
Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by kodyo on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:22PM (#34344081)
Is that what happens now?
Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by happytoexplain on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:25PM (#34344147)
They often suffer, of course. They sometimes die, more directly or less directly due to the suffering.

Not all of them of course - we have social systems. But those are far from a silver bullet.