Re:Theory-building and why employee churn is lethal to softw...
by nickfromseattle on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @02:57PM
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+1 on long vacations. My team is in Europe with 38 days of PTO and while it offends my American capitalistic sensibilities, it's created so much resilience because everyone is always on vacation, we've built our company ops to reflect this reality.
Re:Theory-building and why employee churn is lethal to softw...
by antihipocrat on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @03:35PM
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Is having longer PTO in your business a detriment or neutral/net gain to overall productivity in your experience?
Re:Theory-building and why employee churn is lethal to softw...
by satvikpendem on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @03:04PM
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Like Netflix's chaos monkey but for people; unplug anyone from the system and the system should still work.
Re:Theory-building and why employee churn is lethal to softw...
by grahamplace on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @04:51PM
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At least one CTO has actually tried exactly that:
https://danlebrero.com/2021/06/30/cto-dairy-lucky-lotto-chao...
Re:Theory-building and why employee churn is lethal to softw...
by yoyohello13 on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @04:48PM
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Kind of funny that being allowed to live life outside of work is offensive to American sensibilities.
Re:Theory-building and why employee churn is lethal to softw...
by nonethewiser on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @07:39PM
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He speaks for himself
Re:Theory-building and why employee churn is lethal to softw...
by shuntress on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @05:17PM
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It doesn't "offend" "capitalistic sensibilities". It's just a result of optimizing the wrong metric.
Decision makers for American companies tend to use "Time spent at work" as a proxy for "Productivity". That used to work just fine when the job was pulling levers on an assembly line but turns out to not make sense when you are talking about software development.
Re:Theory-building and why employee churn is lethal to softw...
by wpietri on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @07:22PM
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I think the phrase "American capitalistic sensibilities" is well used here. American capitalism has a long history of optimizing for that particular wrong metric. It's culturally distinct from, say, Mittelstand capitalism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittelstand
Re:Theory-building and why employee churn is lethal to softw...
by nonethewiser on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @07:42PM
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> My team is in Europe with 38 days of PTO and while it offends my American capitalistic sensibilities
Do you actually think of yourself as a capitalist though?
To me this is the a huge incentive for building strong teams. Nobody should be indispensable; it's a disservice both to the company and the person. Pair programming, collective code ownership, intentional cross-training, good automated tests, continuous deployment, and good automated monitoring have all been very helpful to me there. And vacations! Everybody should take long vacations where they are out of contact. By managerial force if necessary.