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Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by mike_d on Thursday January 05, 2023 @05:19PM (#34267690)
Which seems like a super easy fix for Twilio to implement. Don't allow SMS to premium rate numbers.

If they can identify the premium numbers for billing, they should be able to identify them for blocking.

Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by Natsu on Thursday January 05, 2023 @05:35PM (#34267887)
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Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by hedora on Thursday January 05, 2023 @07:27PM (#34269127)
Why is this not set to zero dollars be default?!?

I agree with other comments here. $0 is the minimum amount people should be willing to pay if they're not disputing charges or reporting fraud to the credit card networks / regulators.

Time is money, after all.

Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by Natsu on Thursday January 05, 2023 @07:38PM (#34269259)
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Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by lozenge on Friday January 06, 2023 @12:31AM (#34271361)
Even normal phone numbers have a (low) price that varies by country and can change over time, so what would the default be?
Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by saurik on Friday January 06, 2023 @03:50AM (#34272486)
FWIW, I do think $0 might make a sane default, but you do understand that the user would have to change it from $0 before they could use the account, right? The whole point of using Twilio to send an SMS is because you wanted the SMS to actually be sent, which means you are going to have to pay for the SMS, and SMS is always stupidly expensive.
Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by lmz on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:53PM (#34271115)
I wonder if this is why I don't get SMS OTP from some apps when I'm abroad and roaming...
Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by janosdebugs on Friday January 06, 2023 @03:50AM (#34272494)
AFAIK the sender shouldn't have to pay more just because you are roaming. That's between you and your provider.
Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by macinjosh on Thursday January 05, 2023 @05:25PM (#34267751)
I would imagine there are rules/regulations about a SMS provider blocking communications before fraudulent behavior is determined? Not saying it shouldn't/couldn't be done, but probably one of those things with a simple tech fix but a complicating social/business aspect.
Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by kevincox on Thursday January 05, 2023 @05:57PM (#34268168)
It could be an option in the API call with a default in account settings. I bet most people who are trying to reduce spam accounts by requiring a phone number would actually prefer to exclude these numbers anyways.
Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by deecewan on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:07PM (#34268286)
surely not if the customer _explicitly requests_ that the communications are blocked? iirc in Aus it was possible to have your provider block messages to premium rate numbers back in the days when it was popular to buy ringtones.