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Re:Does the world have enough lithium to move to electric ve... by malfist on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:25AM (#34262176)
When I was in college, the car was being advertised as 100 MPG. The car looks virtually the same, if you can get 100MPG you can probably get insane ranges without huge batteries.

It's basically a motorcycle on three wheels, those things have great milage.

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Re:Does the world have enough lithium to move to electric ve... by vel0city on Thursday January 05, 2023 @12:18PM (#34263104)
> It's basically a motorcycle on three wheels, those things have great milage.

The mileage really varies on a lot of things. Cruising on the highway with some side cases and a little bit of gear I usually only get like 35ish MPG on my 1050cc bike, into the low 40s without any cases and with my windshield fully down/off. Fully loaded with camping stuff I'd only get like 30mpg. My 650cc bike with some cases as well got like 40ish, mid 40s without any cases, but really didn't have enough power to feel great when needing to overtake on highways with big trucks.

Some really small motorcycles will get into the 80s, but its really not a given that motorcycles have high mileage numbers.

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Re:Does the world have enough lithium to move to electric ve... by danans on Thursday January 05, 2023 @01:52PM (#34264588)
I agree that on highways motorcycles' horrible drag (easily 2x of cars) results in terrible fuel economy considering their size.

Around town at low speeds (therefore drag is negligible), size becomes an asset, and a small motorcycle or scooter can get very good fuel economy, assuming it doesn't have an insanely overpowered engine.

An electric motorcycle or scooter around town is extremely efficient.

For example, the Arcimoto (https://www.arcimoto.com/) gets 5.5 miles/kWh.

The Aptera (which blurs the line between motorcycle and car) gets 10 miles/kWh! By comparison the Model 3 (the most efficient current mass market EV) gets 4 miles/kWh.

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