Re:U.S. Moves to Bar Noncompete Agreements in Labor Contracts
by notch656c on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:00AM
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Should be reciprocal if it exists. I.e. if the employee leaves, the company would be barred from hiring anyone else for any remotely similar tasks. Make them taste their own medicine and decide if it's worth it.
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Re:U.S. Moves to Bar Noncompete Agreements in Labor Contracts
by Rayhem on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:42AM
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It is always interesting to me how much 'morality' (in the sense that an individual/corporation 'should' abide by these rules) can be derived from applying symmetry principles.
Re:U.S. Moves to Bar Noncompete Agreements in Labor Contracts
by stcredzero on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:59AM
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People aren't particles, though. What symmetry tests are good for with regards to human beings, is to see if something like a principle which claims to be "fundamental" is really fundamental.
Re:U.S. Moves to Bar Noncompete Agreements in Labor Contracts
by andirk on Thursday January 05, 2023 @03:34PM
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I think it's safe to argue that every single thing in a contract is for the benefit of the employer and has zero to do with morality. And it is up to the employee to have their own internal contract that the employer must align to. It's like legal court where the prosecution and defense go full court press not out of morality but because the belief that if both sides pull their hardest then the truth will be found.
Re:U.S. Moves to Bar Noncompete Agreements in Labor Contracts
by nibbleshifter on Thursday January 05, 2023 @04:10PM
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The "golden rule".
Only do unto others that which you wish others to do unto you (or something like that, you get the idea).
Re:U.S. Moves to Bar Noncompete Agreements in Labor Contracts
by mywittyname on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:11AM
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They'd hire for a different role and "transfer" the person.
Re:U.S. Moves to Bar Noncompete Agreements in Labor Contracts
by notch656c on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:18AM
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That just sets the precedent the non-compete bound employee can be hired in the same manner. Reciprocal.
Re:U.S. Moves to Bar Noncompete Agreements in Labor Contracts
by jakeinspace on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:21AM
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This is the perfect use case for anonymous tips receiving a percentage of the fine.
Re:U.S. Moves to Bar Noncompete Agreements in Labor Contracts
by heavyset_go on Thursday January 05, 2023 @03:07PM
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Works well for taxes and other whistleblowers.
Re:U.S. Moves to Bar Noncompete Agreements in Labor Contracts
by falcor84 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @12:19PM
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I would love to take a short vacation to an alternate universe where all job descriptions say that applicants MUST NOT have any recent experience in the area of employment.
Re:U.S. Moves to Bar Noncompete Agreements in Labor Contracts
by kube-system on Thursday January 05, 2023 @12:28PM
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That's kind of how clean room design works. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_room_design
Re:U.S. Moves to Bar Noncompete Agreements in Labor Contracts
by secretsatan on Thursday January 05, 2023 @03:18PM
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Ignorance is bliss, especially if it’s well paid
Re:U.S. Moves to Bar Noncompete Agreements in Labor Contracts
by devmunchies on Thursday January 05, 2023 @05:27PM
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It IS reciprocal. You're welcome to present that "non-comparable hire" contract to the company before accepting your offer, but they no doubt will rescind your offer. You have the same right to reject the offer if you don't like the contract they present.
It's common for executive's lawyers to negotiate contracts with the firm before accepting an offer (including what the firm can or cannot do to the executive without penalties). I wish it were more normalized for ICs.
Re:U.S. Moves to Bar Noncompete Agreements in Labor Contracts
by Rayhem on Friday January 06, 2023 @06:13PM
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I guess I'd say that's true to first order. Sure, if a company does something egregious that I don't like it is within the realm of possibility that I can go found another one, double their revenue, and grind them out of existence before doing things my way. I suppose you could say that's reciprocal since that's kind of what they did to me in this hypothetical example. Fortune rarely favors that, though, and if you ask me companies have vastly more economic firepower than independent contributors but haven't adopted the corresponding responsibility.
Re:U.S. Moves to Bar Noncompete Agreements in Labor Contracts
by Falkon1313 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:38PM
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May as well really be fair. If the employee isn't allowed to work in that industry for 2 years, neither is the company. They'll just have to find some other source of revenue and retool their business for a couple years.