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Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm by lotsofpulp on Thursday January 05, 2023 @10:25AM (#34260935)
The giant tablet screen that sticks out like a sore thumb is the opposite of minimalistic, or minimalistic in the worst way.

I wonder how long Tesla can get away with not offering CarPlay/Android Auto functionality. The lack of that basic, cheap, and often used feature disqualifies any car from consideration in my view.

Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm by throwaway894345 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @10:53AM (#34261498)
I don’t love that I have to use the touch screen to open my glove box, and I certainly think there are a lot of UI issues (and the lack of integration with phones beyond regular bluetooth), but one thing I appreciate is that there aren’t any blinding dash lights. I can see a lot better at night in my Tesla as a consequence compared with any other vehicle I’ve driven.
Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm by lotsofpulp on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:10AM (#34261878)
I have not driven many cars, but I feel like there is usually a dial adjust the brightness of dash lights. At least in Toyotas.
Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm by throwaway894345 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @12:06PM (#34262905)
Hah, I had a Camry for 10 years and never knew it had such a dial!
Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm by mrguyorama on Thursday January 05, 2023 @01:15PM (#34264017)
You should read the instruction manual to the over $30k machinery you purchased. There's likely many features you didn't realize were there.
Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm by throwaway894345 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:49PM (#34268740)
Joke’s on you. My Camry was only $25k new.
Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm by mikestew on Thursday January 05, 2023 @04:31PM (#34266940)
Congrats on being one of the 10,000, but given that my '81 VW Vanagon has adjustable dashlights, I'd not buy a modern car if it didn't have that feature. Rheostats aren't exactly cutting-edge technology (though I'm sure a modern car uses software to run the driver that sends commands down the CANBUS, which then...)
Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm by throwaway894345 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:48PM (#34268732)
Relax. I didn’t say they don’t exist or that my Camry didn’t have it. I’m just saying I didn’t know it had it.
Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm by firmnoodle on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:20AM (#34262077)
I have a dedicated glove box button in my Tesla S. It's one of the few dedicated buttons.
Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm by lb1lf on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:58AM (#34262768)
Most cars (all?) have the option to dim the dashboard backlight.

I find Saab's solution to be extremely elegant - on some, if not all models, there's a night mode button - what happens is that all non-essential instruments are simply dimmed to black (leaving only the speedo lit), until something happens which warrants your attention; the instrument in question will then come on.

Simultaneously, it dims all button backlights &c to just about off, so that you only get some assistance in locating the control you're after, not losing your night vision the moment you let your eyes stray from the road.

Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm by bartread on Thursday January 05, 2023 @12:02PM (#34262840)
I had a Saab 93 estate (station wagon, for the benefit of non-UK residents) with this feature and loved it. I'd often use it and then also dial the brightness all the way down. Really helped to reduce visual fatigue when driving at night.
Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm by skykooler on Thursday January 05, 2023 @12:20PM (#34263144)
The Nissan Leaf lets you dim the dashboard lighting really far down. I’ve never had a problem with visibility at night.