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Re:Microsoft and OpenAI Working on ChatGPT-Powered Bing in C... by pksebben on Thursday January 05, 2023 @01:21AM (#34256725)
To speak as a proponent, it's not about the er... "relative relevance" so much as the utility.

there are things about a chat model that you can't say about humans, like, it's not really ethical to keep a human stuffed in your pocket to be your personal assistant at your whim.

I think one of the things folks struggle with in grokking the value of these models is that we're really used to tools being like you say; they're reliable and do a thing. As though there are two states of work - perfect and useless. There are other patterns to interact with information, and this puts what we used to need humans for in a place that we can do other things with it. stuff like:

- brainstorming - rubber duck debugging - casually discussing a topic - exploring ideas / knowledge - study groups (as in, having other semi-knowledge entities around to bounce ideas off of, ask questions, etc)

when it comes to self driving cars, well, that's a bit of a different story and really is more a discussion about ethics and law and those standards. I, and others like you speak of are held of the opinion that the expectation for autonomous vehicles is a bit high given the rates of human failure, but there's plenty of arguments to be made that automating and scaling a thing means you should hold it to a higher standard anyway. I don't think there's a correct answer on this one - it's complex enough to be a battery if opinion. You mention the potential for harm, and certainly that applies here.

I'm less worried about chatgpt being wrong. Much less likely to flatten me at an intersection.

Re:Microsoft and OpenAI Working on ChatGPT-Powered Bing in C... by wolverine876 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @02:03AM (#34256925)
> I think one of the things folks struggle with in grokking the value of these models is that we're really used to tools being like you say; they're reliable and do a thing. As though there are two states of work - perfect and useless. There are other patterns to interact with information, and this puts what we used to need humans for in a place that we can do other things with it.

Maybe, but look at it this way: Do you work in business? If so, step back and reread that - it seems a lot like a salesperson finding a roundabout way to say, 'my product doesn't actually work'.