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Re:Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Pl... by Waterluvian on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @09:05PM (#34254964)
Most workers at large companies are seen as fungible cogs. Even the engineers. What you describe feels, unfortunately, like an antiquated idea from the 1900s.

I think we need more unions, more automation, and more social security. We are racing towards a future where there simply won’t be enough “jobs” for everyone and the companies sure as heck aren’t going to look out. Companies have no soul and the humans that run them have worked hard to insulate themselves from that being responsible for the actions of that lack of soul they instilled.

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Re:Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Pl... by nxm on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @09:12PM (#34255011)
I disagree. What you describe is Western Europe with depressed wages and less innovation and dynamic economy. You can’t regulate/unionize into prosperity.
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Re:Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Pl... by Apocryphon on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @09:15PM (#34255036)
And yet

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34028087

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Re:Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Pl... by lmm on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @10:29PM (#34255538)
What's "prosperity"? I feel much better off with a decent work-life balance and the assurance that I won't arbitrarily lose my job than I would with a larger number in my bank account but none of that protection.
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Re:Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Pl... by ryan93 on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @10:43PM (#34255650)
you can literally start a company with the coworkers you would have unionized with and created security for yourself and them. you just want to make things worse for other people
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Re:Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Pl... by lmm on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @11:00PM (#34255777)
> you can literally start a company with the coworkers you would have unionized with and created security for yourself and them.

I can, but we'd still be taking on a bunch of risk - we'd have to put the capital into the company, as owners we would no longer be eligible for unemployment insurance if the company did fold, we have the possibility of one of us kicking another out so internal politics suddenly matters - when the whole point of the exercise was to get stability even at the cost of some upside.

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Re:Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Pl... by kcplate on Thursday January 05, 2023 @12:03AM (#34256198)
Your sarcasm is appreciated…
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Re:Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Pl... by ryan93 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @08:25AM (#34259235)
At the cost of upside to OTHER people.
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