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Re:Meta prohibited from using personal data for advertisement by therealdrag0 on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @01:54PM (#34249770)
You don’t have to guess. We know. How many people use Gmail vs paying for a provider not owned by an advertiser company? How many people use Hulu free/lite tier vs paying more for zero ads? How many people are flocking to use a paid privacy focused search engine like Neeva? Hell even DDG hasn’t taken over and it’s free! People have choices and their preferences are clear: “give me free shit!”
Re:Meta prohibited from using personal data for advertisement by nine_k on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @02:29PM (#34250199)
A ton of people use Outlook.com. The choice is usually not about the presence of ads (these are very moderate with both providers), but about the UX one finds more convenient / used to. When something like Protonmail supports tags, I may give them a try.

I do pay for Youtube premium, because without that, the amount of ads really annoys me. I usually buy ad-free versions of freemium Android apps. There must be some value to pay for; making the free version annoying subtracts enough value that paying for the uncrippled version becomes a reasonable choice. (I usually buy paid versions of open-source apps to keep them open-source; that's also a value.)

Also, a lot of people are very much not well off. They often don't have that extra $5; I remember being in that state myself as a student. So they will put up with free shit, even if it has a noticeable shit component :(

Re:Meta prohibited from using personal data for advertisement by jdiez17 on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @02:13PM (#34250017)
> How many people use Gmail vs paying for a provider not owned by an advertiser company?

Ads shown in Gmail are not based on the contents of the emails, rather on other characteristics inferred from the associated Google account [0]. It's a bit of a "splitting hairs" thing, but it's not an apples-to-apples comparison in this case.

I'm not familiar with Hulu.

> How many people are flocking to use a paid privacy focused search engine like Neeva? Hell even DDG hasn’t taken over and it’s free!

Those search engines are not as good as Google. All things being equal, I posit that people would prefer products that respect their privacy.

> You don’t have to guess.

Again, that's beside the point. The point is that people should be given the opportunity to make an informed choice about whether a company is allowed to process their personal data for the purpose of showing "more relevant" advertisements, and that is a Good Thing.

[0] https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6603?hl=en

Re:Meta prohibited from using personal data for advertisement by bobbruno on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @07:03PM (#34253875)
I’m not so sure. My observations are certainly not statistically significant, but I’m a Brazilian who moved to Germany. One of the things I noticed when using email here is that the amount of people who have an email not @gmail.com, but whatever German provider that has to follow GDPR is much higher than what I saw back in Brazil. This suggests that the population in general in Europe is indeed more privacy-conscious.
Re:Meta prohibited from using personal data for advertisement by therealdrag0 on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @08:14PM (#34254550)
Were those not-gmails free or paid services?