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Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by VincentEvans on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @11:11AM (#34247326)
I propose the title should be changed to “Salesforce decimates staff as part of restructuring”. :)
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by marvel_boy on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @11:24AM (#34247567)
Absolutely, in Roman times 'decimatio' was the punishment for a poor result in battle. The soldiers were obliged to choose one of ten, and kill him.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by Zigurd on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @11:34AM (#34247708)
Huh. Romans invented stacked ranking.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by Hasz on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @11:43AM (#34247851)
It’s a bit more ironic than that —- at least according to to Wikipedia, they drew lots (I.e randomly) for the individual who was killed.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by autophagian on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @11:56AM (#34248060)
I get the feeling that this is more-or-less how stack ranking actually tends to pan out.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by thomasjudge on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:03PM (#34248183)
More like, managers playing favorites
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by jrs235 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @03:51PM (#34266352)
The toxic reason to never miss unpaid happy hours!
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by llampx on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @11:56AM (#34248059)
Layoffs
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by illumego on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @08:00PM (#34254420)
I think the reasoning behind decimation was that it was supposed to be an equivalent bloodbath defeat. Historically, a rout typically resulted in about 10% casualties. Decimation reduced the calculus of a Roman soldier to 'stay in the fight, and risk a 10% chance of death' versus 'run, and risk a 10% chance of being killed at random by your tentmates'.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by ramenmeal on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:24PM (#34248502)
Seems like the low performers would have been taken care of already from the battle.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by scrumper on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @01:34PM (#34249504)
Not necessarily. Cowardice is a viable individual survival strategy.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by illumego on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @08:21PM (#34254619)
Where would a Roman run? To somewhere in Gaul?

"Ave! Auxilium requiro."

"Oxnychz navar werun dosh? [laughs in extinct language]"

"Quid?"

Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by SuoDuanDao on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @01:43PM (#34249627)
In that kind of setting I imagine the low performers would sometimes be likeliest to survive, if they broke rank to run away. I imagine the lots would come out if everyone gave an honest effort.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by illumego on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @08:05PM (#34254473)
That's not how the legions worked. The men assembled three ranks deep. The first rank was comprised of those with middling experience, who had seen combat before. The rear rank was the senior veterans. The cherries with no experience went in the middle, both to be reassured by the E4 mafia laying skunion in the front rank, and to be prodded on by the very experienced guys behind them.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by creaghpatr on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @01:34PM (#34249511)
Happened in Mexico too (may have been fictional or based on real events),in a great book I read once: https://www.fantasticfiction.com/b/rick-bass/diezmo.htm
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by joegahona on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @11:51AM (#34247980)
Very well done! Is there a word for when you use a word in the excruciatingly correct way but are guaranteed to misguide 99% of the audience who reads it?
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by rightbyte on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @11:55AM (#34248052)
"Literally", which is such a word itself.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by manojlds on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:00PM (#34248129)
99% literally use literally wrong though.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by amarento on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:54PM (#34248944)
And the converse of "Literally" is, or should be, "Illiterally", I think, I don't know, literally.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by scrumper on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @01:31PM (#34249474)
M-x mansplain-pedant-mode

It's "figuratively" or, more... literally, "metaphorically."

Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by 93po on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @02:00PM (#34249835)
pretty sure it was a joke
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by shkkmo on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @02:27PM (#34250174)
I would consider the converse of "literally" to be "figuratively".

"Literally" literally means "literally", but figuratively now means "figuratively".

Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by purpleblue on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @02:20PM (#34250084)
"Deprecate" is a great example of this. Everyone gets it wrong, but no one seems to care.

Deprecate means "to continue supporting but to discourage its use." 99% of people believe it means to end support.

Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by shkkmo on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @02:25PM (#34250147)
Really? I see that word used correctly more often than not, but I guess it depends on what projects you work with.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by davely on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:13PM (#34248355)
My wife woke up this morning to an email sent at 3:16AM informing her that she was laid off as part of this restructuring. It's a blessing in disguise, IMHO -- the work-life boundaries expected as part of her org were non-existent (calls with India every night at 8PM or 7AM, our time in California, on top of the normal 9-5 hours).

It's definitely hard to process. Lots of feelings of anger, sadness, relief, etc.

Fortunately for her, the severance is pretty generous (paid through March, then 6 months on top). But there's also anxiety about the job market right now with so many tech workers being let go.

Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by sequoia on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:20PM (#34248449)
Is this 9 months of full pay? How long was your wife's tenure if I may ask?
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by davely on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:38PM (#34248716)
Yeah, that's what it sounds like to us. She had been there about 6 years.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by ghaff on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @02:20PM (#34250086)
I didn't think anyone gave that sort of severance any longer in the US even for someone who has been at a place a middling long time.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by smarx007 on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:21PM (#34248469)
Why would anyone wake up to an email at 3AM?
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by davely on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:38PM (#34248727)
Perhaps I phrased that wrong.

When we woke up at (roughly at 6:30), she saw a work email on her phone announcing the layoffs.

Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by smarx007 on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @04:13PM (#34251749)
No, it was me, didn’t read carefully enough. Thank you and hope your wife finds a balanced job soon!
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by carb on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:25PM (#34248520)
It sounds like their job was pretty toxic and pushing through their work-life boundary. (This has happened to me before).

When that happens regularly, and you get used to being woken up in the middle of the night to respond to a technical outage or needy management, the lightest phone buzz can shock you awake.

Given the described situation, I'm not surprised they woke up to an unexpected phone notification :(

Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by davely on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:42PM (#34248772)
Yeah -- definitely toxic! There were really no boundaries. We have two kiddos as well. So it ended up conflicting with bedtime at night or getting ready for school in the morning. Managers were just not sympathetic at all.

To clarify, we woke up at our normal time and saw the email.

Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by rsstack on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:32PM (#34248629)
She woke up at a normal hour and saw an email from 3 AM. "Woke up to find a notification on her phone", not "woken up by a notification on her phone".
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by sokoloff on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:32PM (#34248630)
I read it as “woke up at <some arbitrary, unspecified time> to an email which was sent at 3:16AM.”
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by Vaslo on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:24PM (#34248515)
I sometimes just wake up randomly in the middle of the night and use the restroom and check my email in the process. I know it’s dumb but I feel like punishing myself.
Re:Salesforce will lay off 10% of staff as part of restructu... by smilekzs on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @01:36PM (#34249542)
Decimation in a signal processing context would suggest "keep 1/10" instead ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downsampling_(signal_processin...