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Re:The Expanding Dark Forest and Generative AI by ramblerman on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @08:25AM (#34245248)
Art that comes with context such as "this was painted by a blind orphan in Sri Lanka" is usually garbage.

Great art like Beethoven's 9th, or the scream just moves people the first time they experience it. Art is about what it convokes in others, not some fake self indulgent conversation about its maker and their motives.

The feelings of the individual experiencing the art is what matters, and that doesn't rule out an AI producing something that touches real human beings.

Re:The Expanding Dark Forest and Generative AI by p-e-w on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @08:35AM (#34245342)
Whenever I listen to Beethoven's later works I think about the fact that they were written by a deaf man, and they mean so much more because of that.

Art is utterly inseparable from the artist. I believe this to be the main reason why pre-Renaissance art is mostly ignored. We can't put faces next to those works, so they don't matter nearly as much as those works for which we can.

Re:The Expanding Dark Forest and Generative AI by CuriouslyC on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @09:34AM (#34245903)
Or it could be because it's mostly flat looking images of Jesus and Mary, or portraits of monarchs?

People love Hieronymus Bosch, despite very little being known about him.

Re:The Expanding Dark Forest and Generative AI by neuronic on Thursday January 05, 2023 @04:30AM (#34257724)
Forgive me for hijacking your comment and planting a reference to one of my favorite Hieronymus Bosch websites (warning: contains music): https://archief.ntr.nl/tuinderlusten/en.html#

Imagine this website being made for a Stable Diffusion generated image...

Re:The Expanding Dark Forest and Generative AI by EamonnMR on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @11:01AM (#34247149)
> The feelings of the individual experiencing the art is what matters

In that case, art has already lost because drugs do their job better.