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Re:Ruby 3.2.0 Is from Another Dimension by mypalmike on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @05:04AM (#34243912)
Revisionist history. Python was huge before Google even existed.
Re:Ruby 3.2.0 Is from Another Dimension by mtrower on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @05:11AM (#34243936)
...for some value of "huge" that others might take issue with.

From my perspective, python was just starting to gain real popularity in the mid 2000s, more than half a decade after Google was founded...

Re:Ruby 3.2.0 Is from Another Dimension by dagw on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @05:26AM (#34244029)
Python was huge before Google even existed.

I first started using Python slightly after that time and for years it was a pretty niche language that relatively few people used, especially compared to the other 'P' languages, Perl and PHP. I'd estimate 2001-2002 as when it would say it started to become a 'normal' language and I wouldn't say it really started taking off until around 2005ish.

Re:Ruby 3.2.0 Is from Another Dimension by Mikeb85 on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @05:51AM (#34244157)
??? Python was huge in the 90's? News to me. No one I knew knew about it until like 2010.
Re:Ruby 3.2.0 Is from Another Dimension by programmer_dude on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @06:02AM (#34244221)
LOL, you and your friends have been living under a rock. I have been using Python since (at most) 2002.
Re:Ruby 3.2.0 Is from Another Dimension by Mikeb85 on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @07:05AM (#34244585)
> I have been using Python since (at most) 2002.

So 4 years after Google.

Which made my point to the parent.

And apparently everyone's been living under a rock because Python didn't become truly huge until maybe 10 years ago.

Re:Ruby 3.2.0 Is from Another Dimension by programmer_dude on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @07:15AM (#34244648)
I did not start using python because it was adopted by Google. It was / is useful with or without Google.
Re:Ruby 3.2.0 Is from Another Dimension by Mikeb85 on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @07:30AM (#34244773)
You may not have, but let's not pretend it didn't become mainstream in the 2005-2020 time period...

When people decided what language to use, it was very much a "X uses this, maybe we should" kind of decision. Still is for the most part.

Re:Ruby 3.2.0 Is from Another Dimension by KptMarchewa on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @08:19AM (#34245192)
I've been learning Python in university ("webdev" class) in 2008 already...
Re:Ruby 3.2.0 Is from Another Dimension by mgkimsal on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @08:48AM (#34245454)
Can I assume the '85' in your username indicates a birth year?

Zope was a Python project from the late 90s, and had quite a bit of attention and traction in the early cms/publishing days. That brought Python attention, and certainly gave it some mindshare in the late 90s.

Re:Ruby 3.2.0 Is from Another Dimension by ilyt on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @10:50AM (#34246980)
I remember it existing back then and near-nobody caring
Re:Ruby 3.2.0 Is from Another Dimension by ofrzeta on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @02:03PM (#34249868)
Zope is still alive, it seems, although I haven't touched it in 20 years: https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/latest/news.html#what-s-new-i...
Re:Ruby 3.2.0 Is from Another Dimension by michaelteter on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @02:17PM (#34250052)
I don't think Zope/Plone had hardly anything to do with Python's rise. While a number of significant sites were built on Zope or Plone, the relative ease with setting up such a site meant that little or no code-level modification or extension was necessary.
Re:Ruby 3.2.0 Is from Another Dimension by Ancapistani on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @01:16PM (#34249255)
My first real professional programming project was written in Python, using Django 0.96, in 2007. It was at a large shipping company, and "under the radar" - i.e., the "business side" did it, as IT wouldn't support it.

Two years later the project had become an integral part of some critical business processes, and IT had to take it on. They decided to rewrite it in C#. I left the company at that point, and almost a decade later I got a call from a former coworker asking for help to fix the system. It turns out it was basically unchanged from when I left, and the address of the Exchange server that it relied on for auth had changed.

Re:Ruby 3.2.0 Is from Another Dimension by lifthrasiir on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @08:32AM (#34245314)
In fact, Google---back then BackRub---was originally implemented in Java and Python, long before Guido briefly joined Google. "Huge" is obviously a subjective word but if it means "not small" then Python was already not a small language even at that time.