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Re:Even More Bay Area House Party by 6yyyyyy on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @11:38PM (#34242098)
>I am surprised Wall Street doesn’t do this already to create synthetic longs.

A comment on the post covers that: It's called a "bucket shop", and it's illegal.

Re:Even More Bay Area House Party by monero-xmr on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @11:47PM (#34242133)
Synthetix has been running a bucket shop for a long time. They added stocks through Kwenta but got spooked and removed them.

https://synthetix.io/

Re:Even More Bay Area House Party by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @11:58PM (#34242205)
> Synthetix has been running a bucket shop for a long time

Well, this is an awkward moment to be in a car with a connected friend from Adelaide!

Re:Even More Bay Area House Party by TeMPOraL on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @04:19AM (#34243630)
Invite them to our HN bashing on defi subthread party here!
Re:Even More Bay Area House Party by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @11:31AM (#34247677)
Given Synthetix is based in NSW, the bashing will come in a more formal forum.
Re:Even More Bay Area House Party by SilasX on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:35AM (#34242391)
I don't see how this is describing the same thing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucket_shop_(stock_market)

The Wikipedia description of a bucket shop says that it's gambling market on stock prices. The anti-stock idea in the article is a security where the holder is obligated to pay out the same dividends as the underlying stock. Not the same thing, AFAICT.

Re:Even More Bay Area House Party by julkali on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @05:53AM (#34244165)
Not relevant to the discussion but why is it illegal? Would save a lot of transaction fees ...
Re:Even More Bay Area House Party by ravel-bar-foo on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @06:58AM (#34244551)
Probably because the counterparty is the dealer, so the dealer has to manipulate prices and terms in their favor to turn a profit. Also, since no actual stocks trade hands, there is no effect on stock price and no investment value.
Re:Even More Bay Area House Party by acover on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @09:43AM (#34246021)
There are derivatives that settle in cash[1]. How do they differ from a bucket shop?

[1] - https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cashsettlement.asp