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Re:Detangle: tl;dr your legal docs with AI by traceroute66 on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @12:28PM (#34234599)
> even knowing what to ask a lawyer can be difficult

That's the lawyer's job, to guide you through ! If they're not doing that, then find a different lawyer.

The whole point is we are talking about legal document review here.

Reviewing legal documents necessarily involves an active discussion with a lawyer, it is not something you can turn up with pre-prepared questions for.

Re:Detangle: tl;dr your legal docs with AI by drbwaa on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @12:38PM (#34234779)
> That's the lawyer's job, to guide you through ! If they're not doing that, then find a different lawyer.

Yes! And if you happen to know that, and have a good lawyer, then you're all set. But a hell of a lot of lawyers won't volunteer to do this, or aren't competent enough to have this conversation productively with a layperson, and most people don't know to ask for it.

I have my doubts as to the practicality, but a tool that could summarize and then prompt laypeople go to their lawyer to start that discussion seems like it could definitely have value. I suspect most people interested in this tool may already be knowledgeable enough to ask for a walkthrough anyway, but you could imagine implementations where the summary is presented directly, and could guide more people toward the help they need.

Re:Detangle: tl;dr your legal docs with AI by traceroute66 on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @12:41PM (#34234815)
> competent enough to have this conversation productively with a layperson

HUH ? That is literally their job !

Legal document review is bread and butter for lawyers.

Having productive conversations with laypeople is what lawyers do all day every day.

I really don't get your point.

Re:Detangle: tl;dr your legal docs with AI by yunwal on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @12:57PM (#34235071)
There are plenty of lawyers who are not competent at their jobs, but can be convincing to uninformed laypeople.
Re:Detangle: tl;dr your legal docs with AI by fnordpiglet on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @06:47PM (#34239817)
That’s not their job - their job is to make persuasive legal arguments, craft legal language to be ironclad, etc. Similarly a top researchers in CS isn’t employed for their ability to explain CS, despite the fact we employ them to do just that.
Re:Detangle: tl;dr your legal docs with AI by jakelazaroff on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @12:46PM (#34234915)
That's true, but you still should (try to) be prepared. Meeting with a lawyer will go much more smoothly if you have at least a rudimentary understanding of the subject matter, rather than having them explain everything to you from first principles.
Re:Detangle: tl;dr your legal docs with AI by freejazz on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:08PM (#34235239)
And you can also waste half the time having the lawyer explain to you that what detangle told you was wrong...