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Re:Men Without Work: America's Invisible Crisis (Book) by Clent on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @11:12AM (#34233321)
There are some men's right subreddits that do not have allow the self-pity but they do not make it to the front page. I will not share specific subreddits for the sanity of the moderators but they are out there that focus on men's mental health specifically.

Toxic Masculinity is men on men hate.

Re:Men Without Work: America's Invisible Crisis (Book) by chowells on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @11:38AM (#34233750)
"Toxic Masculinity" is an idea created by men's groups [1] to describe the stresses on them that make them unhealthy and come from some cultural ideal of manhood. It was literally created by men as language to separate discussion the good parts of societal expectations from the damaging parts. A large number of people (that is, everyone who wants to talk about it sincerely) still use precisely that meaning. It's only those people who look for every reason to get upset who willfully misinterpret it as an insult on the concept of masculinity.

"Toxic masculinity" is men examining themselves and seeking to reject the parts they don't like. There's no hate involved at all. The whole thing is an exercise in self-expression and self-determination.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythopoetic_men%27s_movement

Re:Men Without Work: America's Invisible Crisis (Book) by Eumenes on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @11:46AM (#34233900)
I don't know a single man that uses or embraces that term. It seems to be used exclusively by arm chair psychiatrists or terminally online twitter people.
Re:Men Without Work: America's Invisible Crisis (Book) by afavour on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @11:58AM (#34234102)
I use it. HTH.
Re:Men Without Work: America's Invisible Crisis (Book) by broken_mind on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @03:45PM (#34237758)
It's irrelevant how the term was born. It's relevant how it ia used now: and it's never used in good faith. Can you tell me part of masculinity that are not toxic, based on modern feminist thought?