Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime for C#

Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by timsneath on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:05AM (#34228283)

I'm a pedant, I know, but I can't deal with this being called B♭ (the enharmonic equivalent for A♯), instead of D♭ (the enharmonic equivalent of C♯). Is there another layer of the joke that I'm missing?

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by MStrehovsky on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:12AM (#34228350)

dflat could imply it has something do to with dlang.

bflat triggers a lot of engagement on Twitter and elsewhere because everyone wants to correct it. Couldn't have chosen a better name.

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by jeffparsons on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:46AM (#34228567)

"Double sharps" exist; they could have gone with "B double sharp". (Not saying they _should_ have -- just pointing out the option.)

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by piotrkaminski on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @02:50AM (#34228947)

Wouldn't B double sharp just be C? I guess they'd need to call it "B triple sharp", which is just getting silly.

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by nigamanth on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @03:07AM (#34229063)

There's no black note between B and C, so B sharp would be the enharmonic of C. B double sharp would be the enharmonic of c#

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by menage on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @02:57AM (#34228987)

There's no sharp/flat note between B and C - "B sharp" would be C.

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by piotrkaminski on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @03:00AM (#34229003)

Indeed -- curse you, irregular standard note structure!

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by lloeki on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @07:19AM (#34230546)

mnemonic:

C D E F G A B [C]

do re mi fa sol la si [do]

mi (E) and si (B) end with "i" and are the two ones that are half a step away from the next ones.

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by viraptor on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @02:23PM (#34236616)

Only in "fixed do" version though, because we can't make music notation too easy or consistent...

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by 0_____0 on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @09:03AM (#34231381)

G is just 9-fold-sharp B, really

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by CWuestefeld on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @10:08AM (#34232292)

ultra-pedantically: that's true with the "well tempered" tuning that is used almost universally. But this is really just an approximation, and one that our ears have grown used to.

Mathematically speaking, B# <> C. On a piano or other instrument that quantizes tones, we have little choice but to go with the approximation. But for violinists and others that can choose from a spectrum of tones, it's possible to hit those tones exactly. Of course, when playing with others, the violin still needs to quantize just to be in tune with the others.

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by viraptor on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @02:19PM (#34236554)

If anyone wants to do down that rabbit hole for 15min, there's Adam Neely's recent video on the topic: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SZftrA-aCa4

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by kibibu on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @01:21AM (#34242669)

Even more pedantically, modern stuff uses equal-temperament, not well-temperament.

Well-temperament still has different intervals depending on key. Even temperament just uses x^n/12 for note n and basis frequency x.

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by vchuravy on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @05:10AM (#34229784)

Also Be-sharper would have been a great pronouciation.

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by mindover on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:11AM (#34228344)

Was my first thought as well. I bet there is already something called D flat, so they took this name instead.

Edit: Db language https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/13639/Db-The-Future-Is-...

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by 082349872349872 on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:31AM (#34228480)

The imperative: "be flat"?

("CIL is object-oriented, stack-based bytecode" implies there's quite a bit of flattening to be done before reaching machine code.)

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by nigamanth on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @03:08AM (#34229064)

Could be this, but the more obvious meaning strikes to mind is the piano notes.

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by 082349872349872 on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @04:04AM (#34229424)

¿Por qué no los dos? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit–duck_illusion

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by snvsn on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:19AM (#34228398)

This, exactly!

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by uranusjr on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:47AM (#34228581)

They could’ve called this B-sharp-sharp and get an extra layer of joke for free!

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by kgeist on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:56AM (#34228636)

There's a GitHub issue about it:

https://github.com/bflattened/bflat/issues/6

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by ilayn on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @06:33AM (#34230266)

B is the flat symbol not the note.

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by seanw444 on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @10:52AM (#34233012)

Now that's pedantic.

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Re:Bflat – a single ahead of time crosscompiler and runtime ... by mhd on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @09:33AM (#34231779)

Maybe someone really wants to annoy German musicians?

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