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Re:The Privatization of Policing by mxkopy on Monday January 02, 2023 @03:12PM (#34223020)
> I know this will be an unpopular take but property crime like shoplifting is not a "victimless" crime against evil "corporations"

It shouldn't be a crime, considering how much any given $XB corporation owes to the public in negative externalities (e.g. lobbying for antisocial policies, wage theft) and their abuse of public goods (e.g. overfishing, they need to know my address and phone number for free). If shoplifting were considered debt collection, 'evil corporations' have paid barely a fraction.

Re:The Privatization of Policing by olonn on Monday January 02, 2023 @03:20PM (#34223106)
why would a store exist if you didn’t have to pay for stuff in it?
Re:The Privatization of Policing by mxkopy on Monday January 02, 2023 @03:30PM (#34223234)
Not the point of my argument

"Some shoplifting shouldn't be a crime" != "You don't have to pay for things at a store"

Re:The Privatization of Policing by chroma on Monday January 02, 2023 @06:05PM (#34224983)
So what do you think should happen if someone takes stuff without paying?
Re:The Privatization of Policing by mxkopy on Monday January 02, 2023 @07:09PM (#34225612)
So what do you think should happen about exploitative-by-default corporate practices?
Re:The Privatization of Policing by chroma on Monday January 02, 2023 @07:18PM (#34225701)
I have no idea what you're talking about or how that relates to the problem of people stealing from stores.
Re:The Privatization of Policing by mxkopy on Monday January 02, 2023 @07:26PM (#34225785)
Then you did not read
Re:The Privatization of Policing by dragonwriter on Monday January 02, 2023 @07:18PM (#34225698)
Well, wage theft is technically a crime in some jurisdictions, but almost never prosecuted even where it is, leaving only civil compensatory remedies. Treating far more minor (both in absolute value and relative to the wealth of the victim) cases of tangible personal property theft in the form of shoplifting, which has basically mirror-image class dynamics, the same way way doesn’t seem unfair.
Re:The Privatization of Policing by chroma on Monday January 02, 2023 @07:20PM (#34225710)
That's like saying it's OK to pour your used oil down the storm drain because Exxon-Mobil pollutes in the Gulf of Mexico.