Re:How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?
by nazgulsenpai on Monday January 02, 2023 @11:19AM
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I have been doing this my entire career. IMO its always been much easier to tell someone to hold the Win key and press R and enter a short command than it is to guide them through the UI to whatever setting needs interacting with, especially over the phone.
Re:How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?
by wazoox on Monday January 02, 2023 @12:35PM
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All Linux users have known that forever... Also you can email a command to copy and paste into a terminal, try emailing a procedure like "open app X, click button Y, type Z in field W..."
Re:How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?
by procarch2019 on Monday January 02, 2023 @01:54PM
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Some of the people I work with don’t understand cmd/posh syntax. Additionally they are often working with air gapped systems, so copy paste is not really an option. Those 2 things make it really difficult to have someone do something by cli only, especially if it’s relatively complex command (pipes, regex, vars)
Re:How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?
by whoopdedo on Monday January 02, 2023 @03:24PM
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If you ever end up talking to Microsoft tier 2 support they'll do almost everything through PowerShell.
Which I think hints at the problem. Internally, Microsoft must not be dogfooding (or is it dogfeeding?) their GUI. It's an over-correction from the time when Windows was criticized for being too reliant on visual tools for administration and devs asked for better automation. Well, now scripting is the preferred way to interact with the OS and the GUI plays second fiddle.
Re:How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?
by procarch2019 on Monday January 02, 2023 @03:46PM
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There’s actually new functionality that has been specifically designed with no GUI on purpose. Do a google of split brain DNS. The only way to set it up is by creating additional DNS zones and creating DNS query filters. Can only be done in posh. There are other examples of that too, but I’ve had to implement split brain before so I know that one for a fact.
Re:How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?
by wenus on Monday January 02, 2023 @02:02PM
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>North Carolina PennsylvAnia
What is that?
Re:How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?
by generalizations on Monday January 02, 2023 @02:12PM
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looks like ncpa (.cpl)
Re:How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?
by cpeterso on Monday January 02, 2023 @02:19PM
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What does ncpa.cpl do? I assume it’s part of the Control Panel, but a cursory Google search doesn’t return any useful explanation.
Re:How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?
by jaywalk on Monday January 02, 2023 @02:39PM
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It's the old school Network Connections manager.
Re:How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?
by procarch2019 on Monday January 02, 2023 @02:21PM
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Haha, yep. Sorry, I was relying on the context.
Run commands are great for me, but it sucks when I have to walk someone through something over the phone. It’s gotten to the point where I can’t walk people through the gui methods anymore and it’s actually easier to explain how to open a run prompt and type xyz