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Re:Rant: Year of Linux on the Desktop (2022) by 542458 on Sunday January 01, 2023 @11:55AM (#34208013)
Even Ubuntu desktop can be pretty daunting. I remember the App Store (or whatever they call it) falling apart when trying to install Discord and having to resort to command line magic to fix it. That’s sort of the pattern in my experience - Ubuntu desktop mostly “just works”, but occasionally needs a prod from the command line to fix some issue or install some piece of software… but that’s not really acceptable for nontechnical (or even technical but not Linux-savvy) users.

The LTT videos where they try to game on Linux and experience a range of interesting issues that require semi-advanced Linux-fu to fix is also a good illustration of this.

Re:Rant: Year of Linux on the Desktop (2022) by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Sunday January 01, 2023 @12:28PM (#34208443)
Ubuntu is still riding high on their very real and definite status as "The most usable Linux Desktop" from ~2008, but they've long since destroyed everything that got them there, so personally I think the community really needs to pick a new champion in that regard.
Re:Rant: Year of Linux on the Desktop (2022) by wankle on Monday January 02, 2023 @12:00AM (#34214550)
I've only ever used Discord as a discussion forum. I use Google Voice frequently (audio). I've used Teams and Zoom successfully (native Linux installations). Linus Tech Tips is a jack ass channel. I find it overwhelmingly difficult to comprehend anyone having major issues with Ubuntu. I've not run other Linux varieties much since around 2006.
Re:Rant: Year of Linux on the Desktop (2022) by rbits on Monday January 02, 2023 @03:27AM (#34215663)
That's because you are familiar with Linux. I also have had major problems with Linux. I've tried switching to Linux many times, but it has always been a hassle, with major problems (including Ubuntu, although maybe it's gotten better since, I haven't touched for ages). I was only finally able to do it after I learnt a lot more about computers and had the experience from my previous attempts. I could not imagine anyone who is not into computers being able to use Linux in it's current state. I love using Linux now, but it's not perfect, I constantly run into problems, that I can work around, but the average person wouldn't know how to. The reason I still use Linux despite the issues I run into is because I like figuring out that kind of stuff, and I personally find it worth it for all the benefits of Linux.

I've only ever tried Ubuntu based distros (Ubuntu, Linux Mint, KDE Neon), so maybe that's the problem, but I doubt it, seeing as everyone always recommends Ubuntu based distros for beginners. Or maybe it's cause I have an Nvidia GPU, which might've been the cause for the worst problems, but Nvidia is really popular, so it's not like other people wouldn't experience those issues.

Also, you say "Linus Tech Tips is a jack ass channel" in reference to their Linux videos, are you saying that those videos are wrong or misleading? Because the videos showed you all the issues they ran into (and I found that their experience was almost identical to mine, having to spend days troubleshooting various issues, until finally getting it working properly). Are you suggesting that they lied about the issues that they came across? Cause to me it just seemed like a video showing their experience, it didn't seem biased or anything to me at all.

Whenever someone says that they've never had major issues with Linux, I wonder whether we're even talking about the same thing. Did I accidentally download the wrong thing or something? Cause I can't imagine how someone would be able to use Linux and just happen to never come across them.

Re:Rant: Year of Linux on the Desktop (2022) by fsflover on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @02:49PM (#34250449)
Re:Rant: Year of Linux on the Desktop (2022) by sangnoir on Monday January 02, 2023 @05:03PM (#34224290)
> I remember the App Store (or whatever they call it) falling apart when trying to install Discord and having to resort to command line magic to fix it.

I wonder why launching a terminal to fix something on Linux is seen as esoteric, but editing registry entries in Windows isn't.