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Re:2022 Letter by ben_w on Sunday January 01, 2023 @06:32AM (#34205512)
Elementary school is for children who are four to eleven years of age. Basic elementary school maths is the start of that age range, so counting with your fingers, the idea of base-10, and adding two small numbers with perhaps one carry. Late elementary school (for me "middle school", but the UK reforms education too much to keep track) was still only basic arithmetic, fundamental "roll 2 d6" probability, nets of the most basic polyhedra.

Algebra and trig wasn't until secondary school for me ("year 7" we called it, school year beginning age 11), though I personally had a head start from having learned to read with the Commodore 64 user manual.

Well, if you're not willing (or we'll calibrated enough), I should get some old exam papers, see how well it grades against students. I wonder if there even are any downloadable pre-GCSE exams…

Re:2022 Letter by mik1998 on Sunday January 01, 2023 @06:45AM (#34205576)
I distinctly recall single-variable algebra in elementary school here in Poland. It may vary from country to country.
Re:2022 Letter by ben_w on Sunday January 01, 2023 @07:17AM (#34205732)
What age was that? I'm wondering if something was lost in translation (no two countries I hear about have exactly the same school system so the terms don't line up), or if Poland just did algebra sooner than the UK?

Edit: also, where might I find some old Polish example exams and marking schemes? ChatGPT is inherently multilingual, so I might as well.

Re:2022 Letter by mik1998 on Sunday January 01, 2023 @07:33AM (#34205813)
Elementary school is (or used to be back when I was there) 1-6th grades, and in 6th grade children are 12 years old, I believe. There used to be something called a 6th-grade exam (testing both polish and math) that everyone took before going to middle school, which is what I was looking at before. Though some of these questions may be in the training set, so I would advise to scramble the numbers. Here's an example: https://arkusze.pl/sprawdzian-szostoklasisty-probny-operon-j...
Re:2022 Letter by ben_w on Monday January 02, 2023 @05:37AM (#34216441)
Thanks! :)

This thread is no longer on my first page of comments, so I may forget to reply, but I've downloaded those and do intend to test it against those exams, and will put the write up here: https://github.com/BenWheatley/Studies-of-AI