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Re:US navy released worst rust photo to date by Animats on Saturday December 31, 2022 @01:25PM (#34199157)
Bringing a carrier anywhere near a hostile shore is now iffy. There are too many truck-mounted ship killers now, as the Russian Black Sea fleet found out the hard way.[1] Sailing US carriers up the Taiwan Strait as a show of force is over. The US last did that in 2007.

Something else that's probably over - parking an amphibious assault ship offshore and using it as a base for USMC operations. The USMC and USN invested huge resources in that concept, and it's been very useful in small wars. Those ships are now vulnerable.

A LTJG writes in Naval Institute Proceeding on this.[2] If a carrier is close enough to do anything useful, it's vulnerable to shore-based attack. A Coast Guard officer worries about attacks by drone swarms launched from fishing boats.[3] China has a large fleet of small coastal vessels, the "People's Armed Maritime Militia", which are used for observation and other tasks.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61141118

[2] https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2022/december/eye...

[3] https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2022/december/res...

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Re:US navy released worst rust photo to date by scarmig on Saturday December 31, 2022 @01:45PM (#34199376)
I was limiting my scope to hypersonics, which are hyped compared to more conventional threats.

I agree that in a US-China war, the US will stay very far away from Chinese land-based platforms. The fleet would mostly remain outside the first island chain and fly sorties to take advantage of US air superiority.

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Re:US navy released worst rust photo to date by Animats on Saturday December 31, 2022 @02:36PM (#34199877)
The Chinese land-based platforms now have more range than the US carrier based platforms. See the first article I linked from U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings. If a carrier is close enough to do anything useful, it's close enough to be hit.
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