Re:VanillaOS: Immutable Ubuntu-Based Linux
by imglorp on Saturday December 31, 2022 @09:54AM
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Updates are also necessary for security patches.
Many of the thousands of dependencies in a given distro could file a new vulnerability overnight. Your immutable distro will need updating pronto.
Re:VanillaOS: Immutable Ubuntu-Based Linux
by fbdab103 on Saturday December 31, 2022 @03:21PM
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I idly wonder how long it will be before an OS could be "done". OS is proven to be free of security exploits, applications run entirely isolated permissions (network, disk, etc), and any remaining performance gains are incremental and optional.
Re:VanillaOS: Immutable Ubuntu-Based Linux
by ungamedplayer on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:29PM
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I'd like to think it's possible, but sadly we don't even have the tooling to begin to correctly understand the problem in software let alone the unsafe hardware interactions.
Re:VanillaOS: Immutable Ubuntu-Based Linux
by marssaxman on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:40AM
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> Even cars are now becoming update dependent for features and bug fixes. This is approaching a breaking point, I think.
I certainly hope so. I dread the day it becomes impractical to drive older, pre-bullshit cars.
They once were, before the internet made software updates "easy". There was a time when software was released (and often embedded without any option for upgrade/modification).
But immutable (mostly correct and reliable) software is more expensive and takes longer to develop, so it is out of fashion. Instead we now push out alpha quality MVPs and depend on updates to resolve known and unknown unaddressed issues as well as promised by not delivered features.
To be a little fair to developers, the user expectations these days are 10x or more greater than they were pre-internet-update days. After all, we now carry "supercomputer" devices in our pockets which also make phone calls, and we expect features and integrations which previously were not even imagined.
Even cars are now becoming update dependent for features and bug fixes. This is approaching a breaking point, I think. It will likely happen; there will be regulation and/or revolt; there will be a return to write-once approaches.