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Re:Privacy Is OK by thomassmith65 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @04:33PM (#34178311)
If a technology enables criminals to coordinate without any hope of detection that seems worthy of some fear to me.
Re:Privacy Is OK by sabellito on Thursday December 29, 2022 @04:39PM (#34178376)
Anyone can host an e2e chat solution, trying to take Signal down doesn't change anything for serious organised crime.
Re:Privacy Is OK by zirgs on Thursday December 29, 2022 @04:38PM (#34178375)
That's the price you have to pay if you want to live in a free country.
Re:Privacy Is OK by thomassmith65 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @04:44PM (#34178433)
The point of the original article is that it's not black and white. There is no, and never can be any, entirely free country. I want to be free enough to have good privacy, but not so free as to allow a crime ring to take over my town.
Re:Privacy Is OK by philippejara on Thursday December 29, 2022 @04:59PM (#34178599)
if you are in a position a crime ring can take over your town, no amount of surveillance will help, it will most likely make the crime ring stronger by giving them access to it, there's a joke here about the government being already the crime ring I guess.
Re:Privacy Is OK by DocTomoe on Thursday December 29, 2022 @04:49PM (#34178491)
Some people say that already has happened, and the crime ring is called "the government".
Re:Privacy Is OK by p0pcult on Thursday December 29, 2022 @05:01PM (#34178619)
>Some people

Other people think those first people are complete nutjobs.

Re:Privacy Is OK by tmpburning on Thursday December 29, 2022 @04:46PM (#34178452)
you are eating the pudding....
Re:Privacy Is OK by tensor on Thursday December 29, 2022 @04:53PM (#34178540)
This has always been true. The old fashion way of doing it was called "getting together in person someplace private." Yes Signal makes it a bit easier, but also general technology makes it harder too.
Re:Privacy Is OK by ilyt on Thursday December 29, 2022 @07:46PM (#34180187)
They can do that. The cat is out of the bag. Worst case they can just use GPG/PGP, S/MIME or a bunch of other ways. Backdooring a communication medium just means they won't use it in the first place.