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Re:Tesla used car price bubble pops, weighs on new car demand by timkam on Thursday December 29, 2022 @12:13PM (#34174908)
I would argue that Musk's Twitter obsession has an outsized effect because i) it is all over the news and even apolitical people get it ii) even a chunk of republicans find it weird (e.g., even Gutfeld on Fox is making unfavorable jokes about Musk) and iii) many Tesla buyers are left-leaning (in Europe, the mainstream is left of the US Democratic establishment), which means for core markets and demographics, a Tesla car can no longer be used as a status symbol.

Of course, the writing was on the wall without Musk buying Twitter: Teslas are now ordinary, mass-produced cars and traditional car manufactures catch up on electric. At the same time, electric cars are still mostly for relatively wealthy people, which means it is appealing to buy an electric car that's not a Tesla in order to stand out more.

Re:Tesla used car price bubble pops, weighs on new car demand by Certhas on Thursday December 29, 2022 @12:32PM (#34175233)
I think your second paragraph is imperative. The question was always what Teslas headstart in EVs would mean. Fundamentally it might just turn out the answer is "not very much".
Re:Tesla used car price bubble pops, weighs on new car demand by rsynnott on Thursday December 29, 2022 @01:32PM (#34176051)
Also worth noting that while the antivax stuff is a left-right issue in the US, that’s far less the case elsewhere (antivax sentiments are common on the _extreme_ right in much of Europe, but you’re talking basically just neo-Nazis, not mainstream politicians).

Also the qanon-adjacent stuff about Pelosi’s husband and Fauci and so on; that stuff has some political capital in the US (though even there it’s a bit fringe), but elsewhere it just makes him look unbalanced.