Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down
by philwelch on Thursday December 29, 2022 @02:47AM
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Airlines are extremely low-margin businesses, discount airlines like SWA doubly so. “Posting a record loss” of this magnitude isn’t something that can be afforded. What you’re talking about is likely to turn into some form of bankruptcy. Maybe it’s a relatively minor Chapter 11 where all those refunds get written down by the bankruptcy court, or maybe SWA goes the way of TWA and Pan-Am.
Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down
by scarface74 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @06:40AM
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Airlines make a lot of their money from loyalty programs
https://www.forbes.com/sites/advisor/2020/07/15/how-airlines...
And loyalty programs are bigger business for the higher end airlines that cater to business travels and the more affluent.
On top of that, the top 3 airlines make a lot of money off a first class and business travelers who are using other people’s money.
Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down
by philwelch on Thursday December 29, 2022 @10:02AM
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You just listed a bunch of revenue sources SWA doesn’t have.
Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down
by scarface74 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @10:15AM
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That’s the point…
Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down
by philwelch on Thursday December 29, 2022 @10:19AM
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Gotcha.
Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down
by cmmeur01 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @08:26AM
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Or maybe their lobbyists get on the phones and secure them a nice bailout, since they’re so “essential” as we’ve just seen.
Replying to a sibling comment. There will never be a bailout for SWA. Too small, too many competitors and based in a red state with a blue administration in power.
They lost $300M in Q1 and made $800M in Q2. They can take another $300M loss (1B?) in the short term to mitigate reputational damage and legislation.
In the last fiscal quarter pre-pandemic, they had operating income of $3 billion on revenue of $22 billion, or 13%. This is not a low-margin business.
If they have operating income of eight to ten billion a year, spending a third of a billion to upgrade systems seems like it would have been a reasonable investment instead of buying back shares and increasing the dividend.
Accrue a few billion for refunds, depreciate your software to zero, and start to set aside a few billion for new cloud whatever.
Basically, take this as a huge loss and communicate that you’ve lost a lot of goodwill and trying to make passengers whole is #1 priority (after safety, of course).