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Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down by smugma on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @08:24PM (#34168367)
Good point. I think it will be smart for them to post a record loss for this quarter.

Accrue a few billion for refunds, depreciate your software to zero, and start to set aside a few billion for new cloud whatever.

Basically, take this as a huge loss and communicate that you’ve lost a lot of goodwill and trying to make passengers whole is #1 priority (after safety, of course).

Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down by philwelch on Thursday December 29, 2022 @02:47AM (#34170471)
Airlines are extremely low-margin businesses, discount airlines like SWA doubly so. “Posting a record loss” of this magnitude isn’t something that can be afforded. What you’re talking about is likely to turn into some form of bankruptcy. Maybe it’s a relatively minor Chapter 11 where all those refunds get written down by the bankruptcy court, or maybe SWA goes the way of TWA and Pan-Am.
Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down by scarface74 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @06:40AM (#34171669)
Airlines make a lot of their money from loyalty programs

https://www.forbes.com/sites/advisor/2020/07/15/how-airlines...

And loyalty programs are bigger business for the higher end airlines that cater to business travels and the more affluent.

On top of that, the top 3 airlines make a lot of money off a first class and business travelers who are using other people’s money.

Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down by philwelch on Thursday December 29, 2022 @10:02AM (#34173265)
You just listed a bunch of revenue sources SWA doesn’t have.
Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down by scarface74 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @10:15AM (#34173434)
That’s the point…
Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down by philwelch on Thursday December 29, 2022 @10:19AM (#34173475)
Gotcha.
Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down by cmmeur01 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @08:26AM (#34172367)
Or maybe their lobbyists get on the phones and secure them a nice bailout, since they’re so “essential” as we’ve just seen.
Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down by chasd00 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @08:52AM (#34172582)
Replying to a sibling comment. There will never be a bailout for SWA. Too small, too many competitors and based in a red state with a blue administration in power.
Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down by smugma on Thursday December 29, 2022 @02:52PM (#34177080)
They lost $300M in Q1 and made $800M in Q2. They can take another $300M loss (1B?) in the short term to mitigate reputational damage and legislation.
Re:How Southwest Airlines melted down by panarky on Sunday January 01, 2023 @06:24PM (#34212240)
In the last fiscal quarter pre-pandemic, they had operating income of $3 billion on revenue of $22 billion, or 13%. This is not a low-margin business.

If they have operating income of eight to ten billion a year, spending a third of a billion to upgrade systems seems like it would have been a reasonable investment instead of buying back shares and increasing the dividend.