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Re:Little Free Library by themodelplumber on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @08:11AM (#34160617)
Using the "near me" mapping feature I noticed that my area has a massive problem with pirate LFLs! It shows three in my small city, when I'd guess there are at least 4-5x that number. Will not report for now. Would like to see some LFMs for us museum-goers.

I have found some very interesting niche books in these things. Books which, had they been donated to a public library, the Friends of the Library would have sold off immediately, I'd guess. (They do a good job of keeping the library materials fresh)

Even books like "The Esoteric Compilation of Ryan McPhee" which is fictional for example purposes here, but you pick it up and find out about the McPheebians from the back cover, and then look them up online and discover that they offer a free online diploma in World Peace, and you give them a call and the former chapter leader ends up teaching you chainsaw carving next week.

Sure, you narrowly escaped joining a definitely-not-a-cult for a trial period because you lucked out and met a disaffected follower, but also hey check out this gigantic wooden yard ornament!

(And this title was tucked in next to all of the more normal books of course. One must work for it)

Re:Little Free Library by Eddy_Viscosity2 on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @08:48AM (#34160887)
What is a pirate LFL?
Re:Little Free Library by Freak_NL on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @08:51AM (#34160911)
To name but one of the questions that post raises.
Re:Little Free Library by exegete on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @09:00AM (#34160998)
To use the name “Little Free Library” you pay a fee. There are benefits to paying the fee and it helps the non-profit. Not sure if the name is trademarked or not or what happens if you call your free book exchange “Little Free Library” without paying the fee.
Re:Little Free Library by friesandties on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @09:46AM (#34161429)
I’d like all these to be legit/legal - it’d be sweet if we could sponsor others’ LFL, in essence, be able to lookup a pirate location, then license it for those who cannot. I had no idea our lfl needed to be legitimized, but I could see how it makes sense to offer some sort of understanding around where these things are, creating guidelines, ethics around them etc.

We are contemplating adding a solar panel to our lfl to allow passerby’s to charge up their phone for a bit, but that is proving difficult to plan for loitering, safety, etc. Denver has had a rash of folks taking all the books, wrecking the units this year, but it’s calmed down a bit now that it’s winter. I think the more we get used to seeing and lfl in the wild, the more it becomes something folks expect - maybe switching the colors, adding a something seasonal, might be a way to make them always feel new and exciting. Gloves, masks, snacks, batteries. Stuff that doesn’t matter so much to the operator of lfl, can be life-changing for a passerby. I always feel a dilemma there though, I’m littering the library with lesser materials and potentially taking away from the overall goals to just have books out there.

Re:Little Free Library by kasey_junk on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @09:59AM (#34161553)
I’m not sure if you are joking or not but in case you aren’t. The lfl organization doesn’t legitimize them. It sells the kits, gives you a plaque & puts them in an online db.

The people putting them up are responsible for following all the regulations where they place them.

As someone who runs one I’ve never engaged with the official lfl site at all. We do have a problem every once in awhile with people taking all the books but it’s not a major issue. Our biggest concern is people putting what is effectively trash at our library. Broken toys, clothes with major holes, single shoes, magazines with water damage etc.

One of the reasons libraries work so well is that people understand the leave one/take one concept so well with books and people know to take care of them. For consumable items and other durable goods (like clothes) it’s less culturally obvious what to do.

So my advice, start your own little food pantry (or whatever) or barring that, knock on the door of the lfl provider and ask what they want provided? We have a list of local places that take such donations including live fridges and clothing exchange boxes we send people to who want to place items other than books.

Re:Little Free Library by anigbrowl on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @03:11PM (#34165320)
I would like to enjoy simple things without turning them into a complex bureaucracy. The idea of a free book swap does not need a ton of legal infrastructure.
Re:Little Free Library by Eddy_Viscosity2 on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @10:11AM (#34161698)
Seems like 'unlicensed LFL' would be better than 'pirate'. The latter implying something a bit more sinister. Unlicensed ones still serve the same purpose and are run by volunteers.
Re:Little Free Library by kasey_junk on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @10:17AM (#34161767)
I suspect the OP was joking…
Re:Little Free Library by friesandties on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @11:58AM (#34162971)
No I wasn’t joking, what else would you call my particular lfl? I built my own, stole the name and host it local so that’s kind of where I was going with legitimizing lfls that aren’t in the proper online db. I just felt guilty reading that this morning like whelp, I kind of jacked their idea and gave no accreditation, and I called it a “Little Free Library” to boot. I’m intrigued by lfp now and it seems like keeping those two separated or well defined keeps the mission more clear and focused. Always loving this place, HN is the last corner we can even talk about these things, and I’m blown away so many people in our city are really trying to what we can to improve each other. Cheers!
Re:Little Free Library by brudgers on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @01:49PM (#34164274)
what else would you call my particular lfl?

A library call?

Re:Little Free Library by Eddy_Viscosity2 on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @05:50PM (#34167094)
> what else would you call my particular lfl

'unregistered lfl' it has the spirit and purpose of an lfl, but just isn't registered.

Nothing against the LFL organization, we set up an LFL for our neighborhood and did register it. They even sent us a bumper sticker. But there are also lots of unregistered ones around town as well, free exchange of books is the point so it all good.

Re:Little Free Library by AlbertCory on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @12:55PM (#34163712)
> what happens if you call your free book exchange “Little Free Library” without paying the fee

The LFL police come and take it down?

Here's what happens: nothing. You don't get registered in their database, and no one cares. People in the neighborhood, or those who walk by give & take books, exactly as you intended.

Re:Little Free Library by detaro on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @08:50AM (#34160905)
presumably a joke-y name for one that's not listed on the "official" website.
Re:Little Free Library by AlbertCory on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @12:22PM (#34163289)
It's someone exercising their right to put up a box on their own property. I see them all the time and it never occurred to me that this was "organized" by grifters in any way (and no, I don't have one).

Yes, I said "grifters." No one needs sponsorship for their LFL. No one needs to be "registered." If you want to contribute to society's literacy, there are lots of organizations that do that.

And by the way, public libraries are already free, and they're pretty popular, too.

Re:Little Free Library by thepasswordis on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @01:01PM (#34163757)
Somebody who puts up a box of books near their house and doesn't give credit to the person who invented the idea: https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/that-litt...
Re:Little Free Library by RajT88 on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @02:43PM (#34164985)
I have been seeing these around town, not sure how many are actual LFL's or just copying the idea.

But I have noticed, like you, questionable books being placed in them by what I presume are the local wingnuts who regularly make the local news for protesting drag shows in the local bars.

I would hazard a guess any LGBT+ friendly books would similarly disappear.