Re:Ditch the Batteries: Off-Grid Compressed Air Energy Stora...
by riedel on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @07:48AM
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We ditched our air compressor at work because there are strict work safety regulations (like regular maintenance). However, going off grid is probably a bigger risk in itself and realistic risk analysis is a hard task.
Re:Ditch the Batteries: Off-Grid Compressed Air Energy Stora...
by mojomark on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @09:49AM
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I was working on a compressed air energy storage system for a marine application many moons ago. It was a rubber bladder reinforce and shap-constrained externally by Nylon fabric that would assume the load under tension. I can't recall the operating pressure, but what's vividly burned into my memory was the large fear the fabrication shop had of testing the setup (that if a unit ruptured, it would send large/micro projectiles hurtling through the walls of the facility). The solution was to test under water. We never ended up building the design, but storage under water is plausible safety mitigation I think, though that seems a bit unwieldy.
Re:Ditch the Batteries: Off-Grid Compressed Air Energy Stora...
by greesil on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @11:41AM
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Yah, but heat pumps have compressors too. I'm not sure what failure modes are the most concerning. The pressure vessels probably have some max number of load/unload cycles in them for instance.
Re:Ditch the Batteries: Off-Grid Compressed Air Energy Stora...
by simne on Friday December 30, 2022 @01:40PM
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Most refrigerators have compressor (exists mostly mobile schemes, powered by heat, but anyway they have pressure inside).
From conditioners installers, I've hear, they mostly have issues with external connections, but near none with what made on big enterprise.
So window conditioners, or mobile conditioners, or heavy duty industrial conditioners with salt water as working liquid, are extremely reliable.
Same thing with heat pumps - if it is possible, to make all pipes with high pressure on enterprise, there will be no problems (reliability 3 Sigmas usually). Only potentially problematic, what done at fields.
Re:Ditch the Batteries: Off-Grid Compressed Air Energy Stora...
by krunck on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @11:22AM
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I'm less comfortable with lithium batteries in my house.
Re:Ditch the Batteries: Off-Grid Compressed Air Energy Stora...
by quickthrowman on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @12:51PM
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There are safety mechanisms for pneumatic systems, pressure relief valves are one way to prevent over-pressurizing the system.
You’d want to have a system like this installed by a licensed pipefitter and properly commissioned and tested before operating it, along with regular maintenance.
Re:Ditch the Batteries: Off-Grid Compressed Air Energy Stora...
by greesil on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @01:32PM
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What kind of maintenance?
Re:Ditch the Batteries: Off-Grid Compressed Air Energy Stora...
by Arrath on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @02:54PM
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Periodic tests of joints and valves to ensure they aren't leaking or stuck, respectively. Servicing the air/water separator so that the stored air is dry rather than moisture laden, causing condensation and rusting inside the piping and storage tanks (see: stuck valves). Changing the compressor oil. Making sure no one stuck a metal blank on the emergency relief, making it useless. Hydrostatic load tests of the storage tanks. Things like that.
I’m barely comfortable with sodastream bottles on my house…