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Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by aeonik on Monday December 26, 2022 @06:31AM (#34136792)
FCC fines for violating radio spectrum rules are huge, and they are authorized to confiscate equipment as well. I wouldn't recommend it.

Here is an example: https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-fines-hinson-dangerous-misu...

Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by machinawhite on Monday December 26, 2022 @06:39AM (#34136842)
If I didn't see the post I would never think it's illegal. Also the FCC does not exist outside the US so is this relevant elsewhere?
Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by lelandfe on Monday December 26, 2022 @06:47AM (#34136892)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorantia_juris_non_excusat

> the FCC does not exist outside the US so is this relevant elsewhere?

Your own country likely has an analogue. Get thee to Google. Ofcom is the UK equivalent, for instance.

Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by Gordonjcp on Monday December 26, 2022 @08:50AM (#34137594)
Given that 5.8GHz WiFi and 5.8GHz weather radar are both licence-exempt services within an ISM band, you literally cannot pay Ofcom to take an interest.
Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by richardhod on Monday December 26, 2022 @09:38AM (#34137903)
Given the level of corruption within the current UK government, I would not necessarily agree with your use of the word literally here. But at least in law and in principle yes.
Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by Gordonjcp on Monday December 26, 2022 @10:48AM (#34138581)
The corruption is only in the leadership of the Tory party, really. That doesn't excuse it, or make it better in any way.

It just tells you who needs shot first.

Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by machinawhite on Monday December 26, 2022 @10:32AM (#34138357)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorantia_juris_non_excusat

What do I care about some law student latin?

I know the analog of the FCC in my country. I have not ever heard about them knocking on anyone's door, ever so that's why I'm asking questions?

Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by salawat on Monday December 26, 2022 @10:50AM (#34138595)
Ignorance of the law does not excuse one from breaking. There is no freebie.

The world is a bitch in that it is your oyster, right up until you start impacting something everyone else is counting on. In that case, it is not infrequent for one to be made an example of.

That law student Latin there is a reminder that in spite of you "not knowing" something, the world still turns, you are expected to do some level of research, and there are people whose job is to just search for violations, and dispense a Notice of Apparent Liability to the perpetrator.

Hell, Amateur radio operators run what they call foxhunts when they notice something odd going on, because spectrum misuse impacts everyone.

Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by machinawhite on Monday December 26, 2022 @05:33PM (#34142662)
Thank you for explaining something that's not very complicated and was not relevant to my question I guess? Just because we have analogous agencies doesn't mean they are a carbon copy of each other and the radio spectrum stuff is not exacty mainstream knowledge.
Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by avian on Monday December 26, 2022 @06:50AM (#34136912)
Your country very likely has a government entity that regulates radio spectrum use and has means of enforcing it.

Messing with Doppler weather radar is a usually a big thing that impacts various important services. Even in relatively backwater countries you will get someone knocking at your door if you do this.

Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by machinawhite on Monday December 26, 2022 @10:35AM (#34138387)
That makes sense, but I thought I'm messing with my router to have faster WiFi and not with some weather radar that I don't even know exists
Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by mcpherrinm on Monday December 26, 2022 @10:45AM (#34138532)
The DFS checks exist to prevent your radio from interfering with the weather radar. You’re only allowed to own a radio that could cause such interference because it has those checks.

Here’s an example of what it can look like on the weather radar side: https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupportgore/comments/lnxdji/whe...

Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by machinawhite on Monday December 26, 2022 @05:38PM (#34142697)
Is this from a consumer WiFi or from some bigger antenna?
Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by kube-system on Monday December 26, 2022 @11:14AM (#34138890)
This is why spectrum in many countries requires users and/or devices to be licensed.
Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by sam345 on Monday December 26, 2022 @08:12AM (#34137358)
probably not the best example. the guy impersonated a first responder resulting in no one responding to a fire alarm ; https://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-fines-north-carolina-man-for-u.... https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-19-82A1_Rcd.pdf
Re:The 5GHz “Problem” for Wi-Fi Networks: DFS (2018) by billatq on Monday December 26, 2022 @12:21PM (#34139629)