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Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by MBCook on Sunday December 25, 2022 @04:51PM (#34131783)
Wow it sounds like they’ve improved quite a lot.
Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by OhSoHumble on Sunday December 25, 2022 @05:08PM (#34131956)
This is one of the more important aspects of Linux desktop usage for me. I am currently on Gnome but would switch in a literal heartbeat to KDE if fractional scaling dropped for it first.

Next up: better handling of screen sharing under Wayland. If that's done then I have no problem using Linux in a professional environment since I deliver presentations and collaborate virtually quite a bit.

Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by zdragnar on Sunday December 25, 2022 @05:24PM (#34132119)
Screen sharing in Wayland has been pretty painless for me with the exception of Zoom. The native app refuses to believe that I'm running one of the "approved" distros and won't even try, so if I need to share my screen, I just pop out of the meeting in the native app and rejoin from chrome.
Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by e-brake on Sunday December 25, 2022 @06:41PM (#34132760)
This has been my experience as well: no problems screensharing except w/ Zoom native client due to their distro whitelist preventing screensharing under Wayland. A little irksome. Just let us try! Browser mode until then.
Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by lern_too_spel on Sunday December 25, 2022 @11:08PM (#34134489)
I do not trust the Zoom native app. What am I missing?
Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by zdragnar on Monday December 26, 2022 @12:18AM (#34134820)
The UI is a bit different, and if you're just joining a meeting as a fairly passive participant, not a whole lot.

There's a long and extensive list of features here that compares capabilities of the various clients (including the web client) here: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/360027397692-Deskt...

Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by pantalaimon on Monday December 26, 2022 @12:16AM (#34134813)
Does Screen Sharing on Wayland work in Teams now?
Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by zdragnar on Monday December 26, 2022 @12:28AM (#34134863)
Not sure, last I used Teams was on a mac. A quick google search seems to indicate that, as with zoom, you'll want to join via a browser and have pipewire enabled. If you're using chrome, go to chrome://flags and enable WebRTC PipeWire support. Firefox is a mixed bag.

If you haven't already, you'll want to install xdg-desktop-portal-wlr as well, I think.

Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by Jnr on Monday December 26, 2022 @04:56AM (#34136246)
Not in the "official" application. And microsoft deprecated it. You have to use the web version.
Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by ajvs on Monday December 26, 2022 @06:14AM (#34136687)
You can launch Zoom with a flag to make your desktop environment appear to be GNOME and it'll work.
Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by aidenn0 on Monday December 26, 2022 @05:28PM (#34142616)
What's the flag?
Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by ajvs on Monday December 26, 2022 @07:39PM (#34143542)
env XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=gnome /usr/bin/zoom %U
Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by not_the_fda on Sunday December 25, 2022 @07:40PM (#34133235)
KDE already has fractional scaling. This is for fractional scaling with Wayland. If you don't need Wayland, fractional scale away.
Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by akdor1154 on Sunday December 25, 2022 @05:27PM (#34132147)
You beauties! This is like the final architectural niggle with Wayland, I'm so pleased to see it being addressed.
Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by abcdabcd987 on Sunday December 25, 2022 @05:36PM (#34132218)
I'm using 27-inch 4K monitors with Gnome. I found it more practical to use no scaling but 1.25x text size (settings in gnome-tweaks). The problem for me with 2x scaling or fractional scaling is that it scales UI (icons, margins) as well. As someone who appreciates functionality (i.e., displaying text) over overdesigned white spacing, scaling the whole UI is just wasting my workspace size whereas scaling text-only is a perfect balance between good-looking text and workspace size.

But anyway, good to see that Linux desktop is gaining fractional scaling support!

Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by Ruq on Sunday December 25, 2022 @07:15PM (#34133053)
There is a way to toggle experimental fractional scaling in GNOME.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/HiDPI -> 1.1.1 Fractional Scaling

Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by int_19h on Sunday December 25, 2022 @08:50PM (#34133685)
It's done by upscaling and downscaling by integer amounts, so it's not quite the same as true fractional scaling.
Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by fsh on Monday December 26, 2022 @03:31AM (#34135817)
It works ok, Apple does it the same way. However, I find Microsoft's approach better.
Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by noisem4ker on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @02:36PM (#34236801)
>It works ok

...if you're OK with blur and wasted performance. I like my text crisp, rendered exactly to the desired size, with subpixel antialiasing, and knowing my hardware is not wasting cycles in rendering to a higher-than-needed resolution and then throwing some of that away with raster resampling.

Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by markeibes on Monday December 26, 2022 @06:31PM (#34143110)
What does overdesigned mean? I suppose you mean relying on scientifically proven design practices such as improving readability through use of whitespace and font sizes.

Do you have an example of this being overdone?

Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by wkat4242 on Monday December 26, 2022 @12:57PM (#34140013)
Hmm nice. I'm on X because I run freebsd. But nice for when Wayland comes to it.

Apparently Wayland already works on FreeBSD but support for KDE is currently broken.

Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by aidenn0 on Monday December 26, 2022 @05:31PM (#34142636)
Since a lot of people here are commenting on how important fractional scaling is; what am I missing out on by running 1200p instead of 2160p with scaling?
Re:This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling by noisem4ker on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @02:49PM (#34236988)
> What about GTK apps? They’ll reap the same benefit once GTK also gains fractional scaling support and implements the protocol. Until then, GTK apps will continue to use the less efficient upscale+downscale method for fractional scale factors.

Except GTK developers do not intend on ever implementing proper fractional scaling.

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/4345#note_134462...

(also a nice demonstration of the typical attitude of GNOME/GTK developers, for those looking for drama or that still aren't aware of it)