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Re:Tech Journalism Doesn’t Know What to Do with Mastodon by dmix on Sunday December 25, 2022 @12:41PM (#34129238)
Even worse is that users can signup for a random server then the server can end up on one of the large blacklists for whatever reason and they won’t be able to see or participate in major portions of the network. Unless they sign up on another server (try explaining that to your mom why she needs to sign up again).

As Mastodon grows bigger and blacklists grow it will be more a competitor or add-on to existing niche forums/communities IMO.

It’s not really a public social network in the spirit of Twitter… even if they figure out the UX/UI issues (which I’m skeptical will happen soon, that usually takes core leadership, it’s rarely tacked on afterwards).

Re:Tech Journalism Doesn’t Know What to Do with Mastodon by sangnoir on Sunday December 25, 2022 @07:33PM (#34133190)
> Try explaining to your mom why she needs to sign up again on a different URL, its no walk in the park

How different is this from explaining switching from AOL to GMail?

Re:Tech Journalism Doesn’t Know What to Do with Mastodon by barganzo on Sunday December 25, 2022 @08:34PM (#34133587)
Because Google never randomly hellbanned emails sent from AOL addresses. And AOL never auto-deleted emails sent from Google. And people weren’t banned from creating an account on one service if that service knew the same person had an account on their competitor.

This is exactly what happens on Mastodon. Some servers get added to a blocklist because of one user’s/admin’s vendetta against another group of users, for their politics or other characteristics.

As you might expect, there’s a basic stratification between people who run Mastodon servers on their own: there are the highly politically active, socially brutalist sysadmin hackers, and there are the fresh-off-the-boat Twitter users who sign up for a turnkey hosted Mastodon experience.

Guess who ends up dictating who gets to play in the sandbox?

Some servers then make subscribing to those blocklists mandatory for other servers, meaning your server gets auto-hellbanned if it doesn’t block all the same sets.

The whole concept of globally namespaced public toots is pointless (imo). The only reason these social networks exist is because email solved the spam problem.

Re:Tech Journalism Doesn’t Know What to Do with Mastodon by dmix on Sunday December 25, 2022 @10:19PM (#34134191)
AOL doesn't blacklist Gmail users?

And asking your mom to switch email addresses/providers and learn a whole new interface is probably not the example you want to use... People clung to Hotmail/AOL for YEARS, sometimes a decade.

Re:Tech Journalism Doesn’t Know What to Do with Mastodon by pingiun on Monday December 26, 2022 @03:34AM (#34135838)
> Even worse, users can signup on a random server then it can end up on one of the big server blacklists (or get shutdown) and they won’t be able to see or participate in major portions of the network.

Maybe do a bit of research and don't sign up at shitty instances? The only reason I have seen for blocking instances if they're alt-right, racist, transphobic or harassing people