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Re:Tech Journalism Doesn’t Know What to Do with Mastodon by aszantu on Sunday December 25, 2022 @11:03AM (#34128317)
I'm just overwhelmed when I go on the mastodon start page. How am I supposed to decide for a server?

And then I just close it again

Re:Tech Journalism Doesn’t Know What to Do with Mastodon by Brendinooo on Sunday December 25, 2022 @11:11AM (#34128372)
I mean, people do this for email. I want email, I heard Gmail is good, so I go to Gmail’s site.

The mere existence of a protocol isn’t the issue here. I think the problem is more that the protocol doesn’t have champions like your ISP/Microsoft/Google. Mastodon saying “come here then go somewhere else” isn’t good; it’d be better if there was a default option somehow.

It’s a common problem with open source; I worked on Passit and we had to think about the problem when it came time to log in to the extension. We ended up saying something along the lines of “check the box if you’re not using app.passit.io”. The default choice matters a lot.

Re:Tech Journalism Doesn’t Know What to Do with Mastodon by geerlingguy on Sunday December 25, 2022 @11:47AM (#34128657)
With email, you don't go to email.com, click a sign up link, then get a list of hundreds of email providers to choose from.

Also, the precedent for people looking into Mastodon is not email users looking for a more real time email client. It's Twitter users looking for Twitter on not-Twitter.com

Re:Tech Journalism Doesn’t Know What to Do with Mastodon by Veedrac on Sunday December 25, 2022 @12:02PM (#34128790)
Another key difference with email is that it's easy (the default) to find email providers that are overtly content-neutral, whereas Mastodon, for whatever reason, makes that shockingly difficult.
Re:Tech Journalism Doesn’t Know What to Do with Mastodon by boudin on Sunday December 25, 2022 @11:21AM (#34128457)
Just pick one and try, there's no commitment anyway. You can access content from other servers anyway
Re:Tech Journalism Doesn’t Know What to Do with Mastodon by ummonk on Sunday December 25, 2022 @11:31AM (#34128546)
Is there some way to carry over followers between addresses that I'm unaware of?
Re:Tech Journalism Doesn’t Know What to Do with Mastodon by notpushkin on Sunday December 25, 2022 @11:58AM (#34128758)
Re:Tech Journalism Doesn’t Know What to Do with Mastodon by ummonk on Sunday December 25, 2022 @12:06PM (#34128820)
How exactly do you do this after the instance admin has banned you?
Re:Tech Journalism Doesn’t Know What to Do with Mastodon by notpushkin on Sunday December 25, 2022 @05:31PM (#34132182)
You don't. If your admin is a total dick and prevents you from migrating, you're screwed. If you have hundreds of followers, better reevaluate your initial choice of instance. If you have thousands of followers, host your own, or pay somebody to host it for you. This however doesn't matter if you're just getting started.

There are talks about detaching user identity from the instance. If this gets traction, this problem might be solved once and for all.

Re:Tech Journalism Doesn’t Know What to Do with Mastodon by smolder on Sunday December 25, 2022 @12:01PM (#34128780)
Remember when you were a kid and you did things out of curiosity, to see what would happen? That's the mindset you need in this case. No real harm is done by picking the "wrong" instance.