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Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by creato on Saturday December 24, 2022 @01:30AM (#34114554)
Even if he could find victims gullible enough to trust him, he’s under too much scrutiny from other less gullible people. Reoffending is impossible.
Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by collectedparts on Saturday December 24, 2022 @01:48AM (#34114642)
Agreed on the basic point that he won't win any more confidence games.

I think the main thing is that we haven't seen what he might do now that he knows for sure that he's (by default) headed for a lifetime in jail.

It seems that before the arrest, he was pretty delusional / "high on his own supply" and believed he was going to somehow talk his way out of trouble, as he'd ostensibly been doing for so long.

So the thought experiment now is: do we believe that there's anything nefarious that he could do now, that he'd stopped himself from doing back when he was still trying to maintain an illusion?

For example, he could have various wallet private keys (secretly?) memorized [1], and could take steps to move the funds to new wallets.

TBH the idea that his (fiat) transactions are limited to $1k is a little laughable for someone who until recently, and perhaps still, has access to billions in crypto.

[1] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Brainwallet

Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by lolc on Saturday December 24, 2022 @03:30AM (#34115075)
Don't the bail conditions forbid all financial transactions, even if they are in some shitcoin? Touching his wallets would violate that. So he could move funds around, but risk bankrupting his parents in doing so. The ultra-high bail means it would be hard for him to compensate them.
Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by snapcaster on Saturday December 24, 2022 @11:09AM (#34118111)
I wouldn't be surprised if he had access to wallets nobody else knows about with some of the customer money stashed away
Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by lolc on Saturday December 24, 2022 @05:41PM (#34121893)
It's a possibility. But the way I understand it, he thought he was somehow above board with what he was doing. At least recoverable, eventually above board. Having dark wallets would not have been consistent with that.

Of course, that's what he wants me to think. I'm ready to learn that my take is too naive. But so far, evidence of a bigger plot is missing for me.

Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by collectedparts on Saturday December 24, 2022 @10:03PM (#34123743)
In case this concern seemed theoretical: https://twitter.com/wizardofsoho/status/1606610665795379201
Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by doctomaton on Saturday December 24, 2022 @02:53AM (#34114902)
What about Jordan Belfort? He had an entire movie named after him and he’s still pulling scams https://youtu.be/RZOHYm2TpVM
Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by rz2k on Saturday December 24, 2022 @05:39AM (#34115665)
Or, Jack Abramoff[1]? History suggests that fraudsters and conmen are more likely than not to re-offend. There is no shortage of people who are more eager to be marks than they would have been before the convictions, because now that they can be part of the redemption story of someone who has high status with their well-known name.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Abramoff#Post-release_act...

Re:How Did Sam Bankman-Fried Get Bail? by navane on Saturday December 24, 2022 @03:21AM (#34115033)
It wouldnt surprise me if somehow a substantial part of the population is convinced he did nothing wrong, is being prosecuted by the reptiles/deepstate/etc, and would gladly hand him over more money. The past years have shown that we cant rely on common sense.