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Re:iPhone 14 Pro Faced 'Unprecedented' Setback Leading to Re... by 7speter on Friday December 23, 2022 @07:20PM (#34112326)
Does Apple need to catch up with Qualcomm and MediaTek in terms of raw gpu performance when Apple can optimize software and apis given to developers to work on its hardware? Or am I really out of date and is their public evidence of Qualcomm and Mediattek outperforming apple's hardware in real world workloads?

Nvidia primarily makes add on GPU's, if I understand their business correctly. Apple integrated a GPU onto its m2 (or whichever chip is used in their studio) that performs comparably to the 3060, and even beat the the 3090 in some benchmarks/workloads. I think that's pretty impressive.

Re:iPhone 14 Pro Faced 'Unprecedented' Setback Leading to Re... by pr0zac on Friday December 23, 2022 @07:40PM (#34112491)
This isn’t at all true despite Apple’s marketing. The M2 gets trounced by the 3060 in any graphical benchmark other than power draw, comparing it to a 3090 is just laughable.

https://nanoreview.net/en/laptop-compare/razer-blade-15-2022...

Re:iPhone 14 Pro Faced 'Unprecedented' Setback Leading to Re... by mr_toad on Friday December 23, 2022 @08:35PM (#34112883)
> comparing it to a 3090 is just laughable.

The idea of trying to fit a 3090 in a laptop is amusing.

Re:iPhone 14 Pro Faced 'Unprecedented' Setback Leading to Re... by Godel_unicode on Friday December 23, 2022 @11:08PM (#34113880)
That’s the point the comment you’re replying to is making, just with more words.
Re:iPhone 14 Pro Faced 'Unprecedented' Setback Leading to Re... by maria2 on Friday December 23, 2022 @11:38PM (#34114043)
The original topic of conversation was:

> Nvidia primarily makes add on GPU's, if I understand their business correctly. Apple integrated a GPU onto its m2 (or whichever chip is used in their studio) that performs comparably to the 3060, and even beat the the 3090 in some benchmarks/workloads. I think that's pretty impressive.

The form-factor of the 3090 isn't relevant.

Re:iPhone 14 Pro Faced 'Unprecedented' Setback Leading to Re... by antifa on Sunday December 25, 2022 @09:18AM (#34127409)
Kind of like how the form factor of the space shuttle doesn't matter when comparing it's peak speed and cargo capacity to my pickup truck.
Re:iPhone 14 Pro Faced 'Unprecedented' Setback Leading to Re... by redacted on Friday December 23, 2022 @07:39PM (#34112472)
Its more the fact that we're talking about Apple catching up at all. Android SOCs have been generationally behind Apple for a long time (and MediaTek in particular as a "budget" option), but now in the GPU space that is reversed.

The situation on the desktop/laptop is muddied by CUDA and other Nvidia-exclusive tech - while the M1/M2s indeed trade blows with laptop parts like the 3060 in some specific tasks, once CUDA comes into play Nvidia walks it (unfortunately IMO, even AMD can't compete there and its holding the industry back)

Re:iPhone 14 Pro Faced 'Unprecedented' Setback Leading to Re... by packetlost on Friday December 23, 2022 @07:28PM (#34112390)
> beat the the 3090 in some benchmarks/workloads

Did it actually do that or was it in the "performance per watt" comparison?

Re:iPhone 14 Pro Faced 'Unprecedented' Setback Leading to Re... by literalAardvark on Friday December 23, 2022 @08:02PM (#34112630)
Nah, it gets 10x fewer fps in anything, if you can even run it. Laughable comparison, really, given the disparity of the two.

This isn't an ARM vs AMD64 competition where Apple has a 40 year instruction set advantage it can exploit. The 3090 is nearly state of the art.

Re:iPhone 14 Pro Faced 'Unprecedented' Setback Leading to Re... by astrange on Saturday December 24, 2022 @03:01AM (#34114941)
The official marketing comparison was to a mobile 3090, not a desktop 3090. Completely different GPU.
Re:iPhone 14 Pro Faced 'Unprecedented' Setback Leading to Re... by literalAardvark on Saturday December 24, 2022 @04:31AM (#34115336)
There isn't a 10x performance difference between the desktop and the mobile 3090, but nice try, Tim.