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Re:Caroline Ellison, CEO of Alameda Research, pleads guilty ... by krisoft on Friday December 23, 2022 @06:23PM (#34111833)
The elements are different. Typically “conspiracy to commit X” requires some number of people agreeing to do X and then someone from the group doing at least one overt act in furtherance of that agreement. So you can be guilty of “conspiracy to commit X” without ever getting even remotely close to doing X.

So for example if two mates talk about that they are going to kill person Y, that is the agreement. And then one of them buys a gun, that is an overt act. And even if person Y has very good security, and the two dudes have no chance in hell of murdering Y ever, that is still a “conspiracy to muder” charge.

Re:Caroline Ellison, CEO of Alameda Research, pleads guilty ... by thesimon on Friday December 23, 2022 @07:22PM (#34112342)
> So you can be guilty of “conspiracy to commit X” without ever getting even remotely close to doing X.

Probably most legal systems have something like that.

The interesting thing about US law - at least compared to German law (a Civil law country) - is the fact that even if you succeed with X, you can still be charged with conspiracy to commit X on top.