Conveniently forgetting some decently sized ones that actually came from the Nordics.

At least in Finland, most of the stuff that would be big is sold early, the founders take the 10M and retire to their cottages in the middle of nowhere.

Not so much lately. There are a ton of success stories in the making. I was at Smartly and we didn't settle for 10M. Then you have the likes of Supermetrics, Yousician, Aiven, Eficode, Oura, Iceye, Varjo, Wolt, Supercell, Rovio, NextGame, Enfuce, Ultimate, Swappie, Singa, Sievo, Framery and many more...

Linux: Helsinki.

Without basic foundational creations/discoveries that we can all take for granted, there would be nothing for the vectoralists to build on top of.

Consistently forgetting that giant majority putting US ahead in consumer software is large, single-language and culture target group.

Also consistently forgetting the 15 times larger population.

What's the population of Europe again?

Nokia, Remarkable, Ericson, Spotify, Tidal

All the Nordics combined have less population than California and have actually produced some decent startups.

And California for US standards is basically a communist state. Certainly the example used by the rest of the country of a woke socialist hell.

This is ridiculous. If anything, California tends to be liberal - nothing to do with Socialism (let alone Communism). What does being a "woke" State (whatever that means) have to do with Socialism?

California has very little in common with Nordic social-democracy. Even when looked at relatively to the rest of the US. And this is particularly true when one looks at the subject at hand, which is social safety nets. The "relative" approach has its limits.

Sorry if I gave the wrong impression, that wasn’t my opinion, I was referring to how some other parts of the US perceive California.

You’re right it makes no sense but I think it’s undeniable California is used as an example of failed policies around social welfare and taxation by, say, Texas and Florida politicians.

you must be brazilian for having this take...

:)

But I do live in California for the last 10 years.

why if you hate it so much?

San Jose has a population of 1m people and has produced companies with a bigger GDP than some Nordic countries

Name a big UK startup?

Nordic countries have the safety net countered with a mentality that is borderline entrepreneur-hostile and the law of Jante on top of that so safety nets may be the few pro-entrepreneurship things they have. Finland of the lot is also capital poor so no huge investor funds or such.

Off the top of my head; UK startups that have grown and been successful (although many have now been bought out - which I guess is the exit plan for many founders anyway)

Just Eat, Deliveroo and The Hut Group; Monzo, Starling and Revolut, from another era, there's ARM.

I'm sure there's fintech ones (not a sector I know much about) and the guy who sits near me in the office, who has an AI-healthcare startup, says the Britain is very good at those too.

>I'm sure there's fintech ones (not a sector I know much about) and the guy who sits near me in the office, who has an AI-healthcare startup, says the Britain is very good at those too.

The UK has an advantage here over the US in that the tech and finance sectors are both based in London whereas in the US they are split between California and New York.

Not to mention the Raspberry Pi foundation...

Just Eat was founded in Denmark.

Spotify: Sweden

It is because USA actually has very strong Limited Liability and Bankruptcy protections for companies and even people.

In Europe, I heard that you have personao liability to your employees, libertarian-style.